That's a fair point, maybe I just drop the pull by entirely and make it
a by the left and call it a day. It does feel nicer with hands to me,
but if it doesn't work it doesn't work.
Thanks,
Sam
On 2025-04-03 13:08, Alex Burka via Contra Callers wrote:
You could do a cross trail through (i.e. two changes of a circular
hey: pass P right, N left).
On Thu, Apr 3, 2025, 12:12 PM Sam Whited via Contra Callers
<[email protected]> wrote:
Whew, you scared me there!
RE: the right hands, that makes sense to me, but since it was outside
hands (in a ring), I couldn't really swap hands (since the larks
would
have their right hand free, but the robin coming at them would have
their left hand free. I'll think more about that more; the ring
balance
felt good since you're coming out of a swing and already have
hands with
your neighbor, but it does rather break the flow of all the pull
by's,
so maybe I'll drop it.
Thank you for the notes!
—Sam
On 2025-04-03 12:09, Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers wrote:
> 🤦🏻 Reading is not my forte. I completely missed the final next
> neighbor balance and petronella left.
>
> I have no issue with the balance and petronella left. That will
be fun.
> There might be issues with the pass right pull by right - having
two
> rights in a row.
>
>
> Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)
>
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> *From:* Sam Whited via Contra Callers
> <[email protected]>
> *Sent:* Thursday, April 3, 2025 12:04 PM
> *To:* [email protected]
> <[email protected]>
> *Subject:* [Callers] Re: [External] New dance feedback
> I believe you're improper during the progression (the pull by
right to
> next neighbors in the beginnig of B1), so the petronella left
puts you
> back in becket for the start of the dance, no? This is the only
thing
> that's changed from last night so it's quite possible I've
broken it,
> but I'm going through it in my head and I think it's equivalent
to the
> circle right 3 that used to be there (or at least, I can't
figure out
> how you'd be in becket at the end unless I've mis-typed something
> earlier in the dance that I'm not seeing).
>
>
> —Sam
>
>
> On 2025-04-03 12:00, Tepfer, Seth via Contra Callers wrote:
> > B2 ends improper rather than becket. You need to get the
> > larks/leads/gents to swap places and then a slide left or yearn to
> > progress.
> >
> >
> > Seth Tepfer, MBA, CSM, PMP (he, him, his)
> >
> > Senior IT Manager, Emory Primate Center
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> > *From:* Sam Whited via Contra Callers
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> > *Sent:* Thursday, April 3, 2025 11:39 AM
> > *To:* Shared Weight Contra Callers
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> > *Subject:* [External] [Callers] New dance feedback
> > Hi all,
> >
> > I've got a dance in my sketchbook that I think is ready for a
bit of
> > feedback after trying it with a small group of dancers last
night, and
> > I'm hoping to solicit some from more experienced
choreographers before I
> > call it again. I'm also open to name suggestions if you have
any (I hate
> > naming things)!
> >
> > Untitled, Duple becket
> > A1. Neighbors balance across & pull by right, partner pull by;
shadows
> > balance and box the gnat [1]
> > A2. Pull by and partner swing
> > B1. Balance and petronella; neighbor swing
> > B2. Ring balance, pass partner by right [2], neighbor pull by
right;
> > next neighbor balance and petronella left
> >
> > [1]: The shadow _balance_ in A1 is outside of your minor set
along the
> > lines.
> > [2]: On the _pass by_ in B2 give a little tug on your outside
hands to
> > get momentum. This is really another "pull by", but "pull by
right with
> > outside hands" is a mouthful and confused the experienced dancers.
> >
> > A up-to-date version can be found here:
> >
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> > Any thoughts, critiques, etc. that I can learn from would be
> > appreciated. Thank you!
> >
> > —Sam
> >
> >
> > P.S. I originally had a balance before the neighbor swing too,
so the
> > swing was effectively just switching sides. Maybe I should
have called
> > it a roll away and just had no neighbor swing, but the experienced
> > dancers were not pleased and wanted a full neighbor swing so I
caved
> > even though the petronella into a swing feels a bit "smooth"
compared to
> > the rest of the dance; I could still go either way on that one.
> >
> > P.P.S. I'm also aware that the petronella left is not common
to say the
> > least. I've seen it once or twice and always enjoyed it, but
maybe it's
> > best to steer clear? I originally had that as a circle right 3 and
> > figured that if the experienced dancers were already going to be
> > confused I might as well swap it for something where I can fit
a balance
> > like the rest of the dance. I'm not sure if this logic
actually makes
> > sense, but it felt fun to me. Last night I called it with the
circle
> > right, so that's the only part of the dance that hasn't been
tried on
> > real dancers.
> >
> >
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