On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 8:35 AM, Tom Pantelis <tompante...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Mon, Oct 23, 2017 at 5:35 AM, Faseela K <faseel...@ericsson.com> wrote:
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>> Hi all,
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>>    Thanks for reviewing the patch, and giving comments.
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>>    But there is a comment from Robert that this adds dependency of a
>> mature project to an incubation project J Would like to know whether it
>> is completely not possible. In that case, we have to find out other ways to
>> achieve this.
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> I don't really know the rules/philosophies/history with incubation
> projects and dependencies and what it takes or means to be "mature" (or if
> really matters anymore with ODL). However I don't think we shouldn't let
> bureaucracy impede progress so I'm fine with the dependency. We should be
> able to  freely use infrautils - prior to it we used yangtools as a kind of
> dumping ground for generic components (that had nothing to do with yang)
> b/c we had no where else to put them. infrautils *should* serve that
> purpose now. But if it's a showstopper then the proposed 
> DatastoreStatusMonitor
> could actually reside anywhere since it just uses JMX.
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Or we get infrautils promoted to "mature" to get around the red tape. What
would that take? ...


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>> Thanks,
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>> Faseela
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>> *From:* Tom Pantelis [mailto:tompante...@gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, October 12, 2017 4:28 PM
>> *To:* Faseela K <faseel...@ericsson.com>
>> *Cc:* Anil Vishnoi <vishnoia...@gmail.com>; Muthukumaran K <
>> muthukumara...@ericsson.com>; infrautils-...@lists.opendaylight.org;
>> controller-dev@lists.opendaylight.org; R Srinivasan E <
>> r.e.sriniva...@ericsson.com>; Dayavanti Gopal Kamath <
>> dayavanti.gopal.kam...@ericsson.com>
>> *Subject:* Re: [controller-dev] Expose Datastore health to applications
>> via infrautils.diagstatus
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>> On Thu, Oct 12, 2017 at 6:36 AM, Faseela K <faseel...@ericsson.com>
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>> So here is how diagstatus module works – any application should register
>> as a “service” with the framework, report an initial status(using the APIs
>> provided by diagstatus).
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>> There is another OsgiService “ServiceStatusProvider” exposed, and if
>> applications implement the same, that will be called everytime an external
>> request is made to get the current service status.
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>> In looking at the API, it appears an app would register with the
>> DiagStatusService and invoke report each time its status changes. An app
>> can also register a ServiceStatusProvider to report its status when
>> queried. It seems this is an alternative to interacting with the
>> DiagStatusService in looking at the DiagStatusServiceImpl which always
>> calls updateServiceStatusMap to query the ServiceStatusProviders from the
>> get* methods. Given that, why would an app need to explicitly register and
>> push its status to the DiagStatusService? Why not just advertise a
>> ServiceStatusProvider? This seems simpler. In that case,
>> DiagStatusServiceImpl doesn't need to maintain the statusMap - it would
>> just query the ServiceStatusProvider(s) on demand. Or am I missing
>> something?
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>> For services like “DATASTORE” only the pull model is required, just
>> register the service and implement ServiceStatusProvider.
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>> There are some usecases in genius, where a push model was preferred, and
>> hence we have kept both the options open.
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>> OK.  By "just register the service" I assume you mean just advertise a 
>> ServiceStatusProvider
>> OSGi service. It is not necessary to explicitly register with the 
>> DiagStatusService
>> as that is implicit by advertising a ServiceStatusProvider.
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>> The code in DiagStatusServiceImpl does not enforce explicit registration
>> - one can just call report w/o a prior register call - not sure if that was
>> the original intent.  Similarly a ServiceStatusProvider's status is
>> reported even if it didn't explicitly call register.
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>> Right Tom, the original intent was to allow only services who do explicit
>> registration. But it is not enforced yet, wanted to get inputs on how the
>> apps would be interested to go about this. Michael recently modified the
>> implementation to allow deregistration only for those who actually
>> registered. We were thinking on enforcing the same everywhere, but just
>> thought of sharing the idea to apps before doing the same.
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>> It seems the only reason for explicit registration would be to remove it
>> from being reported on unregistration. But this could also be effected by
>> reporting that as a STOPPED status, which might be useful to report. In any
>> event, explicit reg/unreg via the DiagStatusService  API would only be
>> needed/enforced when pushing status.  Advertising a ServiceStatusProvider
>> OSGi service is an implicit registration and removal of the OSGi service is
>> an implicit unregistration.
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>> Thanks,
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>> Faseela
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