Not sure what some of that meant, but in kppp I changed the device to 
/dev/modem and it ran with out using the control center.... life is good :)
Thanks for all your efforts in keeping after this.


On Thursday 28 June 2001 18:12, you wrote:
> OK got back to this:
>
> 2.2.19 kernel - before kppp
>
> [root@imac root]# lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by
> soundcore               3392   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> bmac                   12384   1  (autoclean)
> bttv                   35632   0  (unused)
> i2c-old                 5104   1  [bttv]
> videodev                3264   2  [bttv]
> usb-ohci               16912   0  (unused)
> mesh                   18368   0  (unused)
>
> added line:
>
> alias serial macserial
>
> in /etc/modules.conf - the lastest installer/detection routine should od
> this for you
>
> I added a new entry in kppp, with the dialog based setup for a remote
> site.
>
> name
> phone number
> PAP
>
> device settings - all default (/dev/modem, symlinked to /dev/ttyS0)
> no changes in any of the rest of the settings
>
> after connection:
>
> [root@imac root]# lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by
> ppp_deflate            44832   2  (autoclean)
> bsd_comp                4512   0  (autoclean)
> ppp                    26432   2  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp]
> slhc                    4448   1  (autoclean) [ppp]
> macserial              43040   2  (autoclean)
> soundcore               3392   0  (autoclean) (unused)
> bmac                   12384   1  (autoclean)
> bttv                   35632   0  (unused)
> i2c-old                 5104   1  [bttv]
> videodev                3264   2  [bttv]
> usb-ohci               16912   0  (unused)
> mesh                   18368   0  (unused)
>
>
> My experience has been it's best to load just macserial, not the normal
> serial driver, although your lsmod listing showed them both.  I have
> connected with both before too, but it seems flakey at times.  Adding the
> alias will load only macserial. You could force both with the following
> stanza in /etc/modules.conf:
>
> above serial macserial
>
> I tested it this way too, and it also worked, with serial showing in lsmod
> as unused:
>
> serial                 41408   0  (autoclean) (unused)
>
> This was all as root.  Seemed to be OK as user "stew" too.
>
> With 2.4.4, some of the module names change, but everything else remains
> the same:
>
> [root@imac root]# lsmod
> Module                  Size  Used by
> ppp_deflate            44000   2  (autoclean)
> bsd_comp                4768   0  (autoclean)
> ppp_async               8464   1  (autoclean)
> ppp_generic            23072   3  (autoclean) [ppp_deflate bsd_comp
> ppp_async]
> macserial              38256   2  (autoclean)
>
> Now it could be that you have a particularly difficult modem.  I've heard
> some of the newest machines have troublesome ones. But it may just require
> adding the alias entry like above.
>
> HTH,
> Stew Benedict

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