I agree. Again, my intention was not to attack anybody. Just making a point on how slow things are for the PPC platform.
On Fri, 2002-03-22 at 19:19, David Cheng wrote: > Stew, > > Not to put words into Luis' mouth or anything, but I believe Luis was > referring to the problems YOU face; i.e., not having access to update > hdlists, not being able to remove unneeded packages from the PPC > distributions, etc. I believe I speak for most of the people on this list > when I say that your work is definitely not un-noticed. We appreciate the > way that you respond to just about every issue, regardless of how many times > it's been raised or how trivial it might be. After my experience with > LinuxPPC, I have to say that it has been refreshing to see a distribution > being worked on as diligently by someone as capable as you, despite the > limitations you appear to face. It has definitely made my learning > experience on Linux much more palatable. > > dc > > While emailing instead of doing something productive on 3/22/02 3:19 PM, > Stew Benedict wrote: > > > > > On 22 Mar 2002, Luis M wrote: > > > >> I agree with this. It's sad to see how well organized and 'workable' is > >> the > >> i586 side of the Mandrake cooker tree. > >> I tried to maintain a mirror for us on the East side of the US at: > >> ftp://ftp.latinomixed.com/Mandrake-devel > >> and I constantly see how the i586 files get updated but the PPC ones ... > >> well, they get updated but a lot slower. > >> > > Compilation time alone on the hardware I have access to is 5 to 10 times > > slower, not to mention getting the program to build/work at all on PPC. > > > >> This is the day that I cannot still install (using the ISO's or not) the > >> Mandrake PPC 8.2b on Old World Power PCs (even beige G3's) and on the > >> iBook > >> (the only install that I didn't have to use kernels from other distros > >> to > >> get Mandrake up and running -- usually I just install Mandrake on Old > >> World > >> boxes using Yellow Dog's kernels) I still get spontaneous Kernel panics > >> every now and then... whether I have USB or not active (in fact, the > >> OHCI > >> driver is not even in the /lib/modules/.../drivers... directory, and if > >> I > >> try to modprobe the uhci one, it just says that it has a bad IRQ and > >> dies... > >> so I just don't use USB anyway). > >> > > I've explained this several times on the list ohci is integrated in the > > kernel. Maybe I should pull it out and let everyone scream when they have > > no keyboard at early boot when you need to fsck your damaged hard drive. > > > >> It's sad to see trivial problems as the ones mentioned > > below go > un-noticed; > >> I feel like Mandrake doesn't care about having a strong PPC distro. > >> > > > > un-noticed - OK, so I guess I just hang out on here for laughs. I try very > > hard to respond to every issue raised. > > > >>> From my part, I have Mandrake running on a PIII 800 and I'm very happy > >> with > >> it, but if I would've known it was such a bad distro on the PPC side, I > >> would've just stood with the now poorly maintained LinuxPPC or Suse, or > >> Yellow Dog .... etc... > >> > >> I'm willing to help as much as I can to get the PPC tree of Mandrake as > >> bug-free as it could be. I guess that there are a million other users > >> like > >> me out there willing to use Mandrake on their PPC hardware, especially > >> on > >> those beige Macs/PowerMax/etc.../*ppc . > >> > >> Overall, to wrap up, I consider the distro to be pretty good as of now, > >> especially since a version was skipped to keep up with the i586 distro ( > >> from 8.0 to 8.2 ). Let's keep up the good work! > >> > >> > >> > > > > Stew Benedict > -- ----)(----- Luis Mondesi System Administrator/Web developer LatinoMixed.com [EMAIL PROTECTED] The only way to keep your health is to eat what you don't want, drink what you don't like, and do what you'd rather not. -- Mark Twain
