I agree completely --jes
-----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of David Cheng Sent: Friday, March 22, 2002 7:19 PM To: Mandrake Linux Subject: Re: The Future of the Mandrake PPC Distribution Stew, Not to put words into Luis' mouth or anything, but I believe Luis was referring to the problems YOU face; i.e., not having access to update hdlists, not being able to remove unneeded packages from the PPC distributions, etc. I believe I speak for most of the people on this list when I say that your work is definitely not un-noticed. We appreciate the way that you respond to just about every issue, regardless of how many times it's been raised or how trivial it might be. After my experience with LinuxPPC, I have to say that it has been refreshing to see a distribution being worked on as diligently by someone as capable as you, despite the limitations you appear to face. It has definitely made my learning experience on Linux much more palatable. dc While emailing instead of doing something productive on 3/22/02 3:19 PM, Stew Benedict wrote: > > On 22 Mar 2002, Luis M wrote: > >> I agree with this. It's sad to see how well organized and 'workable' is >> the >> i586 side of the Mandrake cooker tree. >> I tried to maintain a mirror for us on the East side of the US at: >> ftp://ftp.latinomixed.com/Mandrake-devel >> and I constantly see how the i586 files get updated but the PPC ones ... >> well, they get updated but a lot slower. >> > Compilation time alone on the hardware I have access to is 5 to 10 times > slower, not to mention getting the program to build/work at all on PPC. > >> This is the day that I cannot still install (using the ISO's or not) the >> Mandrake PPC 8.2b on Old World Power PCs (even beige G3's) and on the >> iBook >> (the only install that I didn't have to use kernels from other distros >> to >> get Mandrake up and running -- usually I just install Mandrake on Old >> World >> boxes using Yellow Dog's kernels) I still get spontaneous Kernel panics >> every now and then... whether I have USB or not active (in fact, the >> OHCI >> driver is not even in the /lib/modules/.../drivers... directory, and if >> I >> try to modprobe the uhci one, it just says that it has a bad IRQ and >> dies... >> so I just don't use USB anyway). >> > I've explained this several times on the list ohci is integrated in the > kernel. Maybe I should pull it out and let everyone scream when they have > no keyboard at early boot when you need to fsck your damaged hard drive. > >> It's sad to see trivial problems as the ones mentioned > below go > un-noticed; >> I feel like Mandrake doesn't care about having a strong PPC distro. >> > > un-noticed - OK, so I guess I just hang out on here for laughs. I try very > hard to respond to every issue raised. > >>> From my part, I have Mandrake running on a PIII 800 and I'm very happy >> with >> it, but if I would've known it was such a bad distro on the PPC side, I >> would've just stood with the now poorly maintained LinuxPPC or Suse, or >> Yellow Dog .... etc... >> >> I'm willing to help as much as I can to get the PPC tree of Mandrake as >> bug-free as it could be. I guess that there are a million other users >> like >> me out there willing to use Mandrake on their PPC hardware, especially >> on >> those beige Macs/PowerMax/etc.../*ppc . >> >> Overall, to wrap up, I consider the distro to be pretty good as of now, >> especially since a version was skipped to keep up with the i586 distro ( >> from 8.0 to 8.2 ). Let's keep up the good work! >> >> >> > > Stew Benedict _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com
