On Friday 20 June 2003 03:18 am, Buchan Milne wrote: > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- > Hash: SHA1 > > w9ya wrote: > > On Thursday 19 June 2003 04:50 pm, Buchan Milne wrote: > >>So packages on a CD don't count? Again, I do agree that users should be > >>able to see what software is installed, but > >> > >>-kpackage does do this, as does gnorpm (if it will currently build or > >> work with rpm-4.2) > > > > The *point* was, that new users should/might want to have one gui based > > utility do this. Or at least that was my point. One program for the > > user to > > > run, not several. > > (Hint, I am not disagreeing with you on this point, read the paragraph > above the one you are replying to). > > >>-The majority of software a user is going to use, they should be able to > >>find quite quickly > > > > Some yes, some no. That was the basis we were talking about. > > Maybe the real problem is people assuming that Mandrake is as bad as > otehr distros that don't install a CD-writing app when a CD-writer is > found. > > >>-You did claim windows was point-and-click-easy, so why does my > >> girlfriend install software easily under Mandrake, but not under > >> Windows? There is no global catalog of available software on Windows in > >> any case. > > > > One example. Again the *point* was to consider making it one program. > > Not in the context of this paragraph, which was in response to your > claims that software installation is trivial under Windows. > > I lost about 50MB of important data since my previous backup, to a > setup.exe which on uninstall took all the files in the same folder with > it, and the person who installed it had kindly installed it on the root > of my D: drive, which contained all my data. > > > One that > > can both scan for installed and not installed programs. On this I > > thought we > > > agreed several posts ago. Has that changed ? > > No. > > > Well now I am confused, or do you like to "argue" both sides of the > > "coin" ? > > You made some statements which I disagreed with, but you don't seem to > notice that I don't disagree with your main point. > > In summary > - -the fact that some people here find urpmi more convenient doens't mean > we think newbies should use it, but it means we don't use rpmdrake much > - -Windows isn't much better (it doesn't show me alternative media players > like winamp when I click any "Add/remove programs" menu. Installing > softare from the network is possible if you have an Active Directory > domain, but each piece of software (that doesn't support MSI files) > needs to be specially prepared for this. (BTW, this is why I think urpmi > should have LDAP support ...). Software you uninstall sometimes doesn't > get removed from the list of installed software. Software installation > and uninstallation can be unpredictable. Not all software installs > itself into the list of installed software (yes, even ones where you run > a real setup.exe). > - -It would be nice if by default rpmdrake would show software that is > installed. IMHO, there should be an options dialog, which has things > like "show installed software in searches". > > Is there any reason why installed software can not be under a seperate > branch of the tree view?
Any reason it can't be in the same program, from a user's perspective ? Bob P.S. I am choosing to not respond to your previous comments, as this has gone on way beyond a circular argument. > > Regards, > Buchan > > - -- > > |--------------Another happy Mandrake Club member--------------| > > Buchan Milne Mechanical Engineer, Network Manager > Cellphone * Work +27 82 472 2231 * +27 21 8828820x202 > Stellenbosch Automotive Engineering http://www.cae.co.za > GPG Key http://ranger.dnsalias.com/bgmilne.asc > 1024D/60D204A7 2919 E232 5610 A038 87B1 72D6 AC92 BA50 60D2 04A7 > -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- > Version: GnuPG v1.2.2 (GNU/Linux) > Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org > > iD8DBQE+8sM7rJK6UGDSBKcRAu0kAKCf5J2MiCB3b5qjLVLtb8AwAwmwHwCfdhrR > m7r6KxRG+2RXDFxSLLC+20I= > =BsQV > -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- > > ****************************************************************** > Please click on http://www.cae.co.za/disclaimer.htm to read our > e-mail disclaimer or send an e-mail to [EMAIL PROTECTED] for a copy. > ******************************************************************
