On Wed, 07 Jun 2000, you wrote:
> Christian Zoffoli <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> 
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > > 
> > > Hi all,
> > > 
> > > Why Linux-Mandrake developers make very unstable final distributions?
> 
> [...]
> 
> > 
> > I'm agree with you!! :-(
> 
> as far as i searched through cooker, you didn't have a lot of bug to report, do
> you?

Hmmmph!

This is an excellent distro.  If XFree86 version 4 doesn't work with crappy
i810 chipsets which have given xfreee.org developers headaches for a long time,
so be it.  Be thankful that you have a distro which can deal with agpgart.o in
a sane fashion on a more or less stable (3.3.6) XFree distro.

and ATA-66 hard drive optimisations don't work for some drives?  I have been
periodically posting drive brands to avaoid because the hardware is behind the
specs and would have stayed there forever if people did not start issuing
systems with code fitted to the processors.

Now with RedHat you get one release to look at and no feedback.  With most
other distros you get less than that.  This is the one that threw open their
doors wide as their marketing people would let them to give you a glimpse of
the process like no other.

I report bugs, and they may message back if it is significant to the distro and
if they are able to reproduce what I am talking about.  I don't receive
responses on every bug I report.  I also try to treat the process with respect
and retest several times with different parameters to make as sure as I can that
the problem isn't between the chair and the keyboard.

Mandrake pushes the envelope, allowing us a glimpse of things to come.  XFree86
4.0 is not ready for prime time and was offered with a message that it might
not have a stable driver for your graphics card.  I tried it and found some
hits and some better left at 3.3.6  Even using the 3.3.6 driver I have managed
to squeeze from the STOCK distro, with none of my tweaking, performance I have
NEVER been able to get before--32 bit 1024x768 from some PCI interfaces.  OTOH,
with 4.0 I did find reduced performance with some of the chipsets.

K disk free isn't there but K File System Control is (Well there's a bug--what
a mouthful--it's hard to say so it must be a bug ;-} ) and it accomplishes the
same thing.  But there seems to be the equivalent of emacs vs vi on this one
point..

For the sake of sanity, your own as well as others, THINK before you type. 
With most distros you don't have a place to participate at all, and certainly
nothing like this.  Remember to season your own frucstration with gratitude
that we are given this great setup, and that we'll usually be humored and even
offered a fight ;-}.

The biggest problem I see in the distro may have been caused more by the switch
to perl 5.6.0 in the middle of the process--some things seem to happen
differently.  That and ldconfig which the folk are working on.  And finally,
the out of memory type things when someone doesn't make a swap.  I think I
would favor "user is a twit" as the error message.  I admire your restraint.

Pixel, Chmouel, Daouda, Guillaume, David, Denis, and the rest of the crew over
there.... you done good.(To use a vernacular American phrase).  I am sorry you
have to read bashing you do not deserve but I am very glad you will continue
your openness and continue to develop the world's best software.

Civileme  

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