<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> > current fix has the advantage of working for quite some cards.
>
> I *think* there are much more cards without this analog output jack,
> than with one. But if anyone on the list has one, please speak up. I
> also do not own digital speakers, so I do not know what effect of
> this setting is on those.
this is difficult to guess without market shares of sound cards, % of
their users who use linux, % of who use mandrake, % of alsa users vs
oss ones, ...
what i believe is that this quirk will work fine for some models that
covers quite a lot of users.
eg: i810 and its derived models (ie nforceX chipsets) are quite common
(i think that nvidia got 30-40% of mb sales (mainly cheap ones of
course) with it).
let's look the fact: sb live & the like are more expensive models,
less common[1]
lacking knowledge, the only thing we're sure is that some part of sb
live users will have problems :-(
i only hope that on the overall, there'll be less angry linux users
complaining about "linux does not support my sound card", "i still get
no sound after setting X & Y channels", ...
i fear that regarding sb live, there'll always be people with noise
because their configuration uses different link scheme :-(
> > but the project of generic good default settings for most cards we
> > discussed about with some alsa developers had died (not enough
> > feedback, noone interested in, ...)
>
> I was interested, but just have no time :(
like me :-(
and also add lacks of hw, ...
> And I have only 3 soundcards. And as we see, there are differences
> even between different versions of the same card (and I do not know
> if they are detectable).
yes, same problem with older btxxx chipsets where lot of vendors uses
the same id & eeprom contents with different signals routing on the
card, ... such problems are quite hard to properly fix for
everybody...
> At least for sblive it would be nice if alsa starts using the
> > - and if muting "analog output jack" does not involve some people to
> > not have sound,
> Well, AFAIK it mutes this extra output, which I never ever saw on a
> card. But there are perhaps other people on the list who have.
we may try to mute back this one after unmuting everybody.
but i really don't think it's a good idea to add snd card detection
into sound module in order to only workaround sb live :-(
> > maybe we'll have to publish some kind of errata: "if you use a second
> > pair of speakers, ..."
> Not only second, many people put their first pair into the rear channel.
>
> But your right, I do not know what is better. I can only tell you
> that I *think* it would be better for the majority to have this
> channel muted.
:-)
[1] still the same lacks of figures (is what is true for the whole
market is still true regarding linux users ? ...)
