m�ndagen den 13 oktober 2003 10.51 skrev Kevin Perros:
> This message is the result of conversations whith newbies that tried to
> use Mandrake 9.1/9.2 and after having been conviced and happy with the
> distribution are re-using Windows more and more for a couple of annoying
> and easily solvable problems.
>
> My point of view about newbie difficulties (which I heard FROM NEWBIES
> themselves) with Mandrake is that there are roughly four issues:
> 1. The package
> 2. The menues
> 3. The language
> 4. The license
>
> 1. The packages are a good thing but there should be a frontend to the
> package systems where we talk about apps and plugins. The apps should be
> organized in a tree that should be understood by the end-user. A typical
> end-user doesn't know what the "graphical environment" category could
> contain, as an exemple. Even "desktop" or "Bureautique" or "Network"
> should not be seen. More over, only major apps should be shown, with a
> comment that only says something like "Open Office is the leading text
> writer, spreadsheet tool under Linux", or "Abiword is a text writer that
> is lighter than Open Office"...
>
> 2. The menues should be nearly empty, with only newbie oriented apps in
> it. A First level should only contain the labels "Internet" (netwok
> doesn't mean much for a user, and less correctness on language is
> sometime a good thing), "Programs", "Multimedia, Sound" (A newbie
> doesn't think about sound being multimedia), "Close The System" (session
> is har to understand too). Typically a user only needs a multimedia
> player, a sound player, a desktop suite, a web browser, a mail reader,
> tools for burning CDs and rip CDs.
>
> 3. I focused hear on the french translation but it also applies to
> others. Every term like "r�seau" "environnent graphique" "bureautique"
> is technical for a newbie and shouldn't be used. Maybe whe should have a
> "franglais" mode where we read "plugin" and not "greffon" and so on. I
> understand that it is not such an important thing. Such a mode would
> only be usefull for "mid-newbies" that know what is a plugin, but not a
> greffon. Total newbies doesn't know what is a plugin.
>
> 4. A newbie doesn't know PLF, and as a consequence can't make as many
> things as with windows with is Mandrake. Lincensing and Patent issues
> are a mess for newbies that aren't aware of that problem. Here there is
> no technical solutions, only poltical ones...

Thanks, very nice to read a mail that has the 'perception of seeing reality', 
i.e. any system that is to fix a newbie itch, has to use the newbie words of 
reality.

regards
guran
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