le lun 21-01-2002 � 21:06, Shara Hearns a �crit : > > > > joe is everything but user-friendly. That's the Ctrl-K D one. How can I > > > > guess I need this to save a file? mcedit is indeed much better, but mc > > > > is not installed by default, or is it? > > This isn't for you Fabrice, I'm just gonna vent a bit here :) > On Mon, 2002-01-21 at 06:46, Fabrice FACORAT wrote:
> > 3�/ when there is a pb and have to edit some files by hand without > > having X > > So goes life in the world of *nix and it's variants. I doubt that'll > ever change, at least no time soon. And I love this : have the opportunity to edit everything by hand from CLI. That's why for example I'd rather have a text human readable /proc instead of a binary one ( http://lwn.net/2001/1108/kernel.php3 ) > > > 4�/ if there was a very easy console text editor installed by default, > > when I will tell someone to modify a file, I will just tell it : > > "my_simple_editor file_to_modify". Why ? because it's faster than > > browsing to find the file and because we should encourage user to know a > > minimum the CLI > > And what CLI editor do you know of that will simply go find some flat > text file that is buried 6 some directories deep for DOS, Win-anything, > *nix or anything else? From a commandline? I'd like to see it. My english is bas I don't understand, sorry > whereis or find will track a file down for me quickly enough, but I have > to decide which file is the one I want. Therefore, "my_simple_editor > file_to_modify" becomes "whereis file_to_edit" make a choice and then, > joe file_to_edit. How much easier does it need to be? > > The bottom line is, for someone coming out of the WinDoze environment, > nothing CLI based is going to be _easy_ to use. and vi is not the easiest to learn. So i'd rather see a minimal editor like pico/nano or joe. At this time it's vi whic is include by default, I'd like to see another one so that I know that when I tell someone to launch it I'm sure that this editor is installed and that I will not have to explain how to use urpmi or install a rpm by hand ( easy but "painfull" for me ). -- http://perso.wanadoo.fr/linux_wizard/index.html - L'erreur est humaine mais un veritable desastre necessite un ordinateur !
