David Walser <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:

> --- Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > - it releases after a number of seconds (30 secs
> > last time I
> >   checked, it may have been patched in the meantime)
> > 
> > - then it means that xmms "steals" the DSP, and next
> > KDE action
> >   will not produce a sound, which leads to the
> > newbie asking
> >   herself why
> 
> I'm aware of the current behavior.  For normal use,
> one actually just doesn't get sound from KDE all that
> often.  I'm just trying to say this isn't as bad in
> practice as it may be in theory.

Maybe, maybe not. At the beginning of arts, I had a large number
of "bug" reported because xmms would not start correctly saying
"busy dsp" because they clicked on "xmms" before 30 secs after
kde2 started. I don't want to come back to this broken behaviour.

If only KDE had a decent multimedia player.

 
> > I'd say that if user modified menu entry, he's
> > clever enough to
> > know how to change output plugin from xmms
> > preferences dialog.
> 
> Granted.  I don't see how that's not beside the point,
> but I could be missing something.

I probably didn't understand why you talked about users modifying
their menu entries then..

 
> > Does it map well to the menu system? A.k.a does the
> > following
> > patch is enough (ignoring soundwrapper pb)?
> > 
> > --- /usr/lib/menu/xmms  Fri Jan 11 07:51:05 2002
> > +++ /tmp/xmms   Tue Feb  5 16:22:12 2002
> > @@ -3,6 +3,6 @@
> >  section="Multimedia/Sound" \
> >  title="Xmms" \
> >  longtitle="Multimedia Player" \
> > -command="soundwrapper xmms" \
> > +command="soundwrapper xmms -e %f" \
> > 
> >
> mimetypes="video/mpeg;audio/x-mp3;audio/x-ogg;audio/x-mpegurl;audio/x-wav"
> > \
> >  icon="xmms.xpm"
> 
> Well, I don't know.  Unfortunately I can't test that,
> because just as xmms-arts doesn't work on my system,
> soundwrapper (aka artsdsp) xmms doesn't work either. 

Is "xmms -e %f" for KDE ? or for another WM ?


> Which is another concern, we have no idea why it works
> for some people and not others, and I think the
> behavior you listed at the top of the message is way
> less evil than xmms doesn't work, ever, at all, no
> matter what, because it freezes when you try to play
> anything with it.

I think this is related to xmms-arts being old and bugged but it
seems no more maintained anywher :-(.


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Guillaume Cottenceau - http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~gc/

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