--- Guillaume Cottenceau <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 1- do nothing, e.g. 99% of users which are under KDE
> will have
>    the nice msg "sound card busy" and they need to
> guess they
>    have to change the outpout plugin to "arts"
> (something they
>    don't even know what it is)

I would agree with you if this were the case all the
time.  It's actually only a very small part of the
time that this will happen though, since arts releases
the sound device.

> 2- keep a soundwrapper but instead of using esddsp
> or artdsp,
>    dynamically change the contents of ~/.xmms/config
> behind the
>    back of the user according to the plugin
> currently in use?
> 
> I would favor -2- of course but as I said I don't
> know if this is
> really better. It seems your original mail favored
> -1-? Which I
> don't agree with, of course.

Well, I like the idea of changing the user's output
plugin if they have a soundserver running, but I don't
know of a good way to do this (aka not sure a
soundwrapper is a good way).  One problem is, users
can modify menu entries.  For example, I modify my
user xmms one from "xmms" to "xmms -e %f" so files I
click are added to the playlist, rather than wiping it
out.  Another user doing the same thing would wipe out
soundwrapper if they saw it there, and it probably
wouldn't make sense for it to be there either.  Also
note that xmms -e works even if xmms isn't running, so
it can be used to start xmms.

Maybe the xmms config could be modified not when the
start xmms, but rather when they login to Gnome or
KDE.  Do you think this is possible?

> I'd enjoy having the opinion of other persons on
> this ML ?
> 
> 
> PS : it would help people follow the discussion if
> you would
>      answer the mails adding your comments *after*
> the relevant
>      part of the mail, not before

If there's more than one point to respond to, yes. 
Otherwise it makes it easier to follow to reply up top.

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