>>Mister little less newbie doesn't know why it doesn't
>>work when he changes the output plugin, because he
>>doesn't know that wherever in Mandrake he clicks Xmms,
>>he's running soundwrapper xmms
>>
> 
> I don't think we have a really decent solution for this problem.
> Do you really think it's better 
> 
> 1- do nothing, e.g. 99% of users which are under KDE will have
>    the nice msg "sound card busy" and they need to guess they
>    have to change the outpout plugin to "arts" (something they
>    don't even know what it is)
> 
> 2- keep a soundwrapper but instead of using esddsp or artdsp,
>    dynamically change the contents of ~/.xmms/config behind the
>    back of the user according to the plugin currently in use?
> 
> I would favor -2- of course but as I said I don't know if this is
> really better. It seems your original mail favored -1-? Which I
> don't agree with, of course.
> 
> I'd enjoy having the opinion of other persons on this ML ?
> 


#3?


Dont' run the sound daemons for the wm's?  No wrappers 
needed.  ;-)

(Did that to get real working on 8.1 and KDE still plays 
it's startup music...)

-randy



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