"Timothy R. Butler" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Hi everyone, > I just had a kind of "waaay out there" idea I thought I would toss on here. > Mandrake's urpmi mimicks the concept of apt-get, the menu system driving > Mandrake is Debian's, and many other things are done in a Debianish way. > So my thought is this, what about making Mandrake 9.0 or something like > that Debian-based? Here are the benefits as I see them: > > 1.) While RPM is great, dpkg seems to offer some really wonderful > features. It's also a lot easier to make packages, and simple to convert them > (I guess you could alias the command rpm to "alien --to-deb," actually).
which precise features in dpkg are superior to RPM ? RPM is also the standart choosen by the LSB, and a defacto standart for those using propriatary sofwares. dpkg != rpm and will always be different. it is two spirits. > 2.) Urpmi too is very nice, but a Mandrake Debian setup would have a major > benefit - apt-get could be configured first to get Mandrake packages, and if > one didn't exist for a particular program, it could revert "woody" or "sid" > packages. i wouldnt install an rpm from redhat on my mdk system, thus i wouldn t imagine a debian one (config, hw, compilation tuning..) > 3.) Mandrake could be the first to offer offer an i586-optimized > Debian-based distro. > 4.) This would further distinguish MDK from the "others" (RedHat and SuSE). > > 5.) Finally, since Mandrake uses Debian-like ideas, and even uses the > Debian menu system, I would think it would be simple (relatively speaking) to > make such a move. what about porting debian to mandrake ? they would get a rock and simple installer (that is ported to ia64, ppc and almost on alpha and sparc (done in the past)), up to date package (still kernel 2.2 in debian stable), a true hardware detection (mouse config during debian install :), more fs, more tools, more users... i do not want to start a jihad between debian and mdk (or others) i donot think that one distrib is *universally* better than all the others, but one answer better to your need in a given time. There is place for both deb distrib and rpm distrib. an user knowing well his suse box will always be more effcient than a traditional debian-irc-geek who prefers bashing mdk users than creating great modern tool for his distrib ? debian is moving in my sense to a big set of package, one very old and one unstable but with uptodate apps. True debian devel is likely dead (yep there is the new generation installer team but things are not very fast). the debian pb is that nobody want/can take the responsablity to a decision, thus consesu need to be found, it takes really more times. but that the fabulous debian spirit, everyone contributes to the distrib in a sense. I really think competency between distribs is good, suse makes great work on the look of the boot, we are trying to get it. Polish Linux Distrib (PLD) hve sometimes better packages, we are trying to get them. Redhat have a more uptodate pci-ids list, we merge it, debian has a great menu tool, you know the answer... and so on. > I know it seems like this is a space that is already take with Libranet and > soon Xandros, but it seems to me the low-level Debian utilities combined with > the excellent interface of Mandrake could be truly a "killer app." > > Any thoughts? > > -Tim -- Yves Duret [EMAIL PROTECTED] piouk toujours et meme apres !
