On Wed, Aug 21, 2002 at 11:24:12AM +1000, Ron Stodden wrote:
> No good. It cannot be done for two good reasons:
>
> 1. The components of the beta CDs have been updated offline from Cooker
> as necessary to provide an installable viable {?} system and so the beta
> does _NOT_ correspond to Cooker at any time. The diffences are supposed
> to make their way into Cooker, but this process is overlapped with the
> normal Cooker updates, so the cooker tree does not meet the basic
> requirements for beta testing.
This is entirely untrue. cooker is always more up to date from the beta
CDs. The beta cds are merly snapshots of cooker from a time frame where
it is functional. Think of the betas as cvs snapshots that a variety of
projects produce.
> 2. There is no concurrent freeze on the Cooker tree with beta timings.
> There should be, for the beta test duration. The only people who
> need beta CDs are those are those who are very first-time PC Linux users
> or those beta testers withot internet access (none?). In any case, the
> CDs would be easily construced by existing mandrake users (use mkcd)
> from the frozen cooker-tree.
That's silly to expect that there should be a freeze. cooker is the
distribution as it stands right now on it's way to a release. cooker is
used as the repository to build it against. cooker allows the
developers to post fixes for beta issues. etc etc etc...
The only thing I think about the betas is that Mandrake is putting betas
out long before it's time to have a beta IMHO. Betas are often put out
while major changes are still occuring to the distribution. E.G.
rpmdrake v2 vs rpmdrake v1, gcc 3.1 vs 3.2. While I don't expect there
to be a freeze during the beta. One would certainly expect the major
components of the system to be set before we enter beta testing.
Otherwise you are wasting your time testing because major regressions
can and will happen. E.G. a bug that isn't exhibited when an app is
compiled with gcc 3.1 but does when compiled with gcc 3.2.
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