On Wednesday September 25 2002 12:35 PM, Warly wrote:
> 9.0 is (likely to be) finished.
>
> Thanks to you all for your precious help.
>
> During last 6 months period, and especially in the last beta period,
> some of you give some advice/critic/flame regarding Mandrakesoft
> development process.
>
> It is now the right time to debrief all this.
>
> Please comment on what you liked, disliked in the 9.0 building,
> testing and problem reporting process.

     I've been runnin 8.3/9.0 since June (previous cooker before that), 
the only 9.0 bug I reported was fixed before my post showed up ;) 
Mostly I'm a lurker.

> I already collect on various mandrake IRC channels:

   http://www.mandrakeforum.org/article.php?sid=2284&lang=en
"If you want help, use MandrakeExpert or the mailing lists or the 
alt.os.linux.mandrake newsgroup, the various #mandrake IRC channels 
etc."

    Actually there's even cooker bug reports posted to various other 
linux newsgroups. Y'all might note that 'mailing lists' in the above 
quote is a link to all the Mdk lists, newbie, expert, cooker, etc. I 
don't think this should change, nor do I believe it ever will. Most 
users are more intimidated by the cooker list than tryin to run cooker. 
Many don't want to subscribe or even be bothered to check the cooker ML 
archive. Most are discouraged if they don't get acknowledged.

    Still they don't have any hesitation to discuss cooker problems or 
bugs on the other lists or newsgroups. There they do often get 
acknowledged, even helped. So, seems to me, those of us that do run and 
subscribe to the cooker list, and other lists, could help a lot by 
coaxing these reports from 'other sources' into a usable form and 
report them to the cooker list ourselves. It would entail an effort by 
some cooker volunteers (my hand is up).

    OTOH, a policy of discouraging bug reports to this list only, other 
sources as inappropriate, not only would mostly fall on deaf ears, but 
also foster the 'useless' or obsolete (ie, already fixed in current 
cooker) reports many of y'all have been complaining about. (Maybe those 
persons should volunteer also ;)

-- 
    Tom Brinkman                  Corpus Christi, Texas

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