--- Levi Ramsey <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Tue Oct 29 15:57 -0800, David Walser wrote:
> > Thank you for the second reminder that Gnome
> sucks. 
> > Keyboard crap for copy/paste == Ctrl-C/Ctrl-V, in
> > Linux you just highlight and middle click.  And
> yes
> > there's one more button press to initiate the
> > selection process with single-click, that's a
> *hell*
> > of a lot better that *lots* more mouse crap (aka
> > double-clicks).
> 
> Thank you for showing how much of an idiot you are

Thanks you.  I could say the same.

> (though Adam could
> have been clearer in his reply).  GNOME does use
> middle click to paste.

If you had been paying attention, I made no claims it
didn't.  That's not what I was talking about.

Really, I understand all of our tendencies to get
emotional, but I honestly hoped to start a technical
discussion.  Someone is trying to change policy behind
our backs, I think it's a stupid change, and I'm
trying to get a discussion out in the open.

Attacking technical decisions is one thing, take
person attacks off list if you wouldn't mind (and same
goes for me if I've failed to heed that).

> No C-v/C-c needed.  Have you ever actually *used* a
> double-click based
> system?  You only need the double click when
> activating something on the
> desktop or in $FILE_MANAGER.  If activating
> double-click there causes
> all sorts of stupidity, it's not the fault of the
> double-click
> activation, it's the fault of an insanely bad design
> by the KDE
> developers.

Well yes, but you're missing the grand point. 
Double-click *itself* is stupid.  What the KDE
developers have tried to do is minimize as much as
possible double-click being required, and that's a
wonderful goal.

> > Yes, I understand you stick to Gnome because you
> like
> > the Windows interface.  Some of us like to move on
> to
> > better things.
> 
> If any Linux UI (apart from Ice...) is emulating
> Windows, it's KDE.

Well it's more underlying technical stuff Gnome is
modeling after Windows, but no, Ice and KDE are
certainly not Windows clones, nor are they trying to
be.  KDE is trying to be a sensible graphical desktop
environment, taking ideas from everywhere and
innovating on its own, and Ice is simply trying to be
a non-resource intensive, but still usable (and
simple) window manager.

> Granted the double versus single click issue is 100%
> irrelevant to me.
> I ...don't run
> Nautilus or any other
> GUI file manager.

That's probably true of most of us.  The clicking
issue is slightly more broadly important than that
(not much), mainly we're all worrying about the users.

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