--- "R.I.P. Deaddog" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > On 2003-01-14(Tue) 07:11:34 -0800, David Walser > wrote: > > --- Frederic Crozat <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > This is right.. Theme packages should not screw > up > > > default theme.. There > > > is no point for discussion on that.. > > > > Geramik is not a normal theme. The only useful > > purpose it serves is being the default theme, > > alongside KDE's default Keramik theme. Looks-wise > > neither are all that wonderful, and noone's gonna > > choose to use them over something else. Their > only > > usefulness is in their consistency, it's basically > the > > same idea as Bluecurve. > > Now I see the point. Geramik is trying to do what > Bluecurve did, > right?
Basically. More specifically, the color, font, and related settings that you configure for Keramik in KDE Control Center are what Geramik uses, rather than reading .gtkrc* files and being configured with Gnome tools. It's a Gtk+ theme for KDE users who have to use Gtk+ apps, and it keeps the look of the two consistent 100% of the time. I'm not entirely sure if Bluecurve is set up that way to be configured in one place, and always look the same no matter the toolkit, but if it doesn't do that it probably will in the future. > If this is so, then the current changes are > not enough. > You have to persuade Mandrake developers to use > G/Keramik > to replace the default mdk theme, and adopt > G/Keramik as > the default instead. Well, no not neccesarily. The way the package was set up before allowed a sysadmin to easily do that though, you just install it. And really having G/Keramik be default is the only configuration in which either of them are all that useful. Keramik is already the default theme in KDE (KDE choice, not Mandrake's), so if a sysadmin wanted a consistent desktop, all they had to do was install the Geramik package. Mandrake didn't neccesarily have to follow and install Geramik by default, but the way it was before gave them that option, it left that possibility open for them. If they wanted to follow RH sort of and have a consistent desktop, they wouldn't have to do anything fancy, just get Geramik installed. Now it's pretty much broken and useless of course. If they don't want it (I'd want to hear this from Laurent first, as it's really for KDE users. Crozat is the Gnome guy and he really has no business messing with it), then they should delete it from contrib, and probably additionally configure KDE to not use Keramik by default. > In additional to this, you also > need to > get the GNOME/KDE behavior sync'ed. Geramik already does this. > To sum up, > Mandrake have > to follow RedHat's decision to make GNOME/KDE > similar enough. Don't have to, but could. > If the above is not achieved, Geramik will just be a > normal > theme, nothing more, nothing less (quoted). No, that's still wrong. I think you'll understand from my explanation what Geramik really is. If you just want a Gtk+ theme that looks like Keramik, Geramik is not what you want. Such "normal themes" do exist. > Having two desktops looking similar but behave > differently is > worse than what we currently have, IMHO. Like I said, Geramik takes care of this (that's what it's for), but if it didn't, I'd have to agree with you. > > > Moreover, Gemarik is more than buggy > > > > Yes, there's only one author, I'm sure he'd > appreciate > > help. I would think having a well-working Geramik > > would be a desirable thing for MDK. > > Yes, not only for Mandrake, but good for everybody > who like > K/Geramik too. Hey Abel, thanks for your thoughtful response. __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Yahoo! Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus.yahoo.com
