The average crock pot on low is 200 degrees f and high is 300 degrees f. Now
this may very some depending on brand and the wattage at the outlet it is
being used at, it is just an average. It is widely accepted to toss a frozen
roast in the oven and set it to 200 to 300 degrees. How is this any
different?

When thawing meat first, there is a much higher risk of cross contamination
between the juices and other surfaces and foods. From being in the fridge to
moving it to the sink or counter for preparation to moving to the pot for
cooking. No one, sighted or otherwise could 100% guarantee they got the mess
cleaned up. Unless you are using a bleach water solution, or water temps
over 165, you cant even be sure you killed all the bad stuff when you
cleaned up.

Cooking frozen meat does not have that issue of the mess and risk of
contamination. Place the meat in  the crock pot with some liquid, put the
lid on and set it for high for an hour or so, then turn it to low if you
wish, and leave it a lone for several hours. Taking the lid off can add as
much as 30 minutes to the cooking time. The liquid turns to steam and
surrounds the meat, so it is not being cooked from just the bottom, it is
getting cooked on all sides. To help the pot heat up faster, you can line
the underside of the lid with foil. This helps reflect the heat back down in
to the pot instead of the heat going out of the lid

No one in my family has gotten sick from food in our house. I cook the same
way my mom does, and we never got sick at home either from food. 

But one of my favorite crock pot foods I cook like this.
Thaw a beef roast, yes, it does need to be thawed for this one.
roll it in flour and seasonings of your choice
Sear it in a very hot skillet with some oil on each side for about 1 minute.
Toss it in the crock pot with a little liquid and more seasonings on low for
several hours.
I know it is not very exact, but gives you an idea of something to try.

Michael



-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Nicole Massey
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 9:08
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CnD] frozen meat in crockpot question

Excuse me? Frozen meat being cooked is better from a food poisoning
standpoint? In a crock pot? I don't think so. Oven maybe, but a "slow
cooker" has a more gradual heating, meaning that if something is frozen it
will spend a longer time in the bad range as it has to overcome the inertia
of starting out so cold. Crock pots weren't designed to thaw meats, so their
testing didn't encompass  that feature, so you're flying without a net. You
may have had positive results with it, but I wouldn't risk it, especially if
I was cooking something that had both meat and vegetables in it, especially
dense ones like carrots, celery, or potatoes.

Thawing is an important part of the food safety regimen, as it gets food to
right below the range of the danger zone so the minimum amount of heat can
get it above that range as quickly as possible. It's why fridges are the
temperature they are.

-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Michael Baldwin
Sent: Wednesday, January 18, 2012 8:59 AM
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CnD] frozen meat in crockpot question

I am sure that is included to cover their butt. I am sure there are people
that will read 5 hours on a recipe and put in frozen meet instead of thawed,
and get sick cause it was not done in 5 hours and sue Hamilton Beach over
it.

I have cooked frozen beef, pork, whole chicken, chicken breasts, and
probably more in my crock pot with no issues. 

In fact it has been shown that cooking frozen meet is healthier from a food
poisoning stand point. That is why cooking your turkey frozen is a big push
now, although I have been doing that for a long time to.

Michael
-----Original Message-----
From: [email protected]
[mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Charles Rivard
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 17:52
To: [email protected]
Subject: Re: [CnD] frozen meat in crockpot question

I very recently bought a Hamilton Beach 5-quart crockpot, and haven't used
it yet.  As I needed to scan the manual before using it, anyway, I just
scanned it.  The manual says never to put frozen foods into the crock. 
Always thaw first.  HTH.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Donald" <[email protected]>
To: "cooking dark" <[email protected]>
Sent: Tuesday, January 17, 2012 3:27 PM
Subject: [CnD] frozen meat in crockpot question


>I am not a regular crock pot user and I am sure we have this question  
>before, but I forget the answer.
> I was going to place a small frozen roast of beef into my pot, put it 
>on  high and leave it to cook with a little bit of water to start with 
>in the  pot.
> What is your opinion on frozen meat into a crock pot?
> Donald
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