It does not go unnoticed that Len deserves a Hero award. Kerry
> On Jul 6, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Jim McKane <[email protected]> wrote: > > Just to clarify - this would not be REDOing the existing pages but simply > typing lists of surnames and firstnames. New pages are being added in the > best possible formats and have been for several years; however, as has been > pointed out we have soooooooooooo many different types of data. > > You may also note that other than the very odd entry 99% of our > transcriptions are being done by only ONE person............. Len Swindley. > > Regards > Jim > > Jim McKane > South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario > > >> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Kerry Dunn <[email protected]> wrote: >> Building on the idea of an outline of best practices, I wonder if it would >> be feasible to develop guidelines to standardize many/most future >> submissions so that search results would be improved going forward (or a new >> database developed easily from future submission). I don’t think it would be >> possible to have a consistent format for all documents. But, for documents >> that lend themselves to table or spreadsheet formats, it seems like it might >> be doable. For other types of documents, perhaps some type of summary of >> names could be recommended for inclusion, akin to an appendix or table of >> contents of names/townlands in a set format. >> >> Regarding existing documents, I think I prefer to see efforts go into >> expanding the great info posted on the site rather than redoing old info. >> That said, if there are listers who don’t transcribe and would like to >> otherwise contribute, redoing existing records into a standardized format >> over time could be a useful contribution. Doing so effectively would likely >> require someone (Jim?) to prioritize existing documents to get maximum bang >> for the effort. And, any redos really need independent proofreading to keep >> errors from creeping in...we all make errors from time to time despite our >> best efforts. >> >> Finding this site allowed me to locate more of my family history than I ever >> thought possible when I started my research a little over a year ago. As a >> new researcher, I want to shout out a big Thank You to this fantastic >> community. >> >> Kerry Gail Dunn >> Albany, California >> >>> On Jul 6, 2018, at 9:36 AM, K Cooper <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >>> I agree with Boyd. Perhaps someone could produce an outline of best search >>> strategies with the existing search tool. >>> >>> Kathleen >>> >>> >>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 7:38 AM Jim McKane <[email protected]> wrote: >>>> Thanks Boyd >>>> >>>> Jim McKane >>>> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario >>>> >>>> >>>>> On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:36 AM Boyd Gray <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> Jim, >>>>> >>>>> On balance, I would say it is not worthwhile. >>>>> >>>>> Yes, it is very useful, almost essential, for big databases such as the >>>>> TABs. And I would dearly love someone to do it for Catholic Parish >>>>> Records!! But the amount of work required in order to do it for the >>>>> multifarious sources in CTI is just not a good way to spend your time, in >>>>> my opinion anyway. >>>>> >>>>> I have found plenty of useful information by a judicious use of your >>>>> current simple search system. I try various combinations of people's >>>>> names and townland names or churches or parishes and then the little >>>>> headings that are thrown up are usually enough for me to tell which will >>>>> be useful. This is very often how I find Len's transcriptions of BMD >>>>> notices in old newspapers. >>>>> >>>>> Others may think different but my advice would be to leave it. Your >>>>> search engine for TABs is a great help but that only works because it is >>>>> one database. >>>>> >>>>> Regards, >>>>> >>>>> Boyd >>>>> >>>>> https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/ >>>>> >>>>> https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ >>>>> >>>>> http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On 6 July 2018 at 13:25, Jim McKane <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>> Hi CTI Supporters - >>>>>> >>>>>> PROBLEM - as you know using any search engine to locate individual >>>>>> names on any website leaves a lot to be desired. As an example typing >>>>>> "james mckane" into any search engine will find instances of James >>>>>> McKane with the two words beside each other and in that order only. If >>>>>> you only type james mckane (without the quotes) you then get every page >>>>>> with the two words anywhere on those pages......... meaning you might >>>>>> find Thomas McKane and James Smith in your results but not James McKane. >>>>>> >>>>>> INVESTIGATION - I have invested a lot of time lately including investing >>>>>> in considerable with a professional programmer in an attempt to find an >>>>>> automated solution to the problem which has resulted in......... there >>>>>> is NO easy way! Why? Well the major reason is CTI has far too many >>>>>> types of records in far too many formats to automate the process. >>>>>> >>>>>> SOLUTION - The ONLY solution is plain brute force............ meaning >>>>>> manually creating spreadsheet lists of surnames and firstnames for each >>>>>> page on CTI. I would then massage those lists into a fully searchable >>>>>> database similar to the one recently created for the Tithe Applotment >>>>>> Books. >>>>>> >>>>>> QUESTIONS FOR YOU - >>>>>> Do you feel this is a worthwhile project? >>>>>> If so, would you be willing to type some lists for us? >>>>>> If so, please give us an idea of how many hour/days/weeks you might >>>>>> expect to dedicate to our project. >>>>>> If you wish to keep your responses private, please email me directly >>>>>> off-list at [email protected] >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks for your consideration, >>>>>> Jim McKane, webmaster >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Jim McKane >>>>>> South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario >>>>>> >>>>>> _______________________________________________ >>> -- >>> Cuimhnigh ar na daoine ónar tháinig tú >>> "Remember the men whence you came." >>> _______________________________________________ >>> CoTyroneList mailing list >>> [email protected] >>> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com >> _______________________________________________ >> CoTyroneList mailing list >> [email protected] >> http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com > _______________________________________________ > CoTyroneList mailing list > [email protected] > http://mail.cotyroneireland.com/mailman/listinfo/cotyronelist_cotyroneireland.com
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