I'm adding my thanks to Len!He doesn't get to see me pouring over the records
he's given us, but be assured, they are appreciated! Thank you, Peggy
(Margaret) [email protected] (NOT.com)604-800-1201
From: Kerry Dunn <[email protected]>
To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List <[email protected]>
Sent: Friday, July 6, 2018 11:52 AM
Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Improving Searches on CTI - RESPONSE
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It does not go unnoticed that Len deserves a Hero award.
Kerry
On Jul 6, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Jim McKane <[email protected]> wrote:
Just to clarify - this would not be REDOing the existing pages but simply
typing lists of surnames and firstnames. New pages are being added in the best
possible formats and have been for several years; however, as has been pointed
out we have soooooooooooo many different types of data.
You may also note that other than the very odd entry 99% of our transcriptions
are being done by only ONE person............. Len Swindley.
RegardsJim
Jim McKane
South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Kerry Dunn <[email protected]> wrote:
Building on the idea of an outline of best practices, I wonder if it would be
feasible to develop guidelines to standardize many/most future submissions so
that search results would be improved going forward (or a new database
developed easily from future submission). I don’t think it would be possible to
have a consistent format for all documents. But, for documents that lend
themselves to table or spreadsheet formats, it seems like it might be doable.
For other types of documents, perhaps some type of summary of names could be
recommended for inclusion, akin to an appendix or table of contents of
names/townlands in a set format.
Regarding existing documents, I think I prefer to see efforts go into expanding
the great info posted on the site rather than redoing old info. That said, if
there are listers who don’t transcribe and would like to otherwise contribute,
redoing existing records into a standardized format over time could be a useful
contribution. Doing so effectively would likely require someone (Jim?) to
prioritize existing documents to get maximum bang for the effort. And, any
redos really need independent proofreading to keep errors from creeping in...we
all make errors from time to time despite our best efforts.
Finding this site allowed me to locate more of my family history than I ever
thought possible when I started my research a little over a year ago. As a new
researcher, I want to shout out a big Thank You to this fantastic community.
Kerry Gail DunnAlbany, California
On Jul 6, 2018, at 9:36 AM, K Cooper <[email protected]> wrote:
I agree with Boyd. Perhaps someone could produce an outline of best search
strategies with the existing search tool.
Kathleen
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 7:38 AM Jim McKane <[email protected]> wrote:
Thanks Boyd
Jim McKane
South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:36 AM Boyd Gray <[email protected]> wrote:
Jim,
On balance, I would say it is not worthwhile.
Yes, it is very useful, almost essential, for big databases such as the TABs.
And I would dearly love someone to do it for Catholic Parish Records!! But the
amount of work required in order to do it for the multifarious sources in CTI
is just not a good way to spend your time, in my opinion anyway.
I have found plenty of useful information by a judicious use of your current
simple search system. I try various combinations of people's names and
townland names or churches or parishes and then the little headings that are
thrown up are usually enough for me to tell which will be useful. This is very
often how I find Len's transcriptions of BMD notices in old newspapers.
Others may think different but my advice would be to leave it. Your search
engine for TABs is a great help but that only works because it is one database.
Regards,
Boyd
https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/
https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/
http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/
On 6 July 2018 at 13:25, Jim McKane <[email protected]> wrote:
Hi CTI Supporters -
PROBLEM - as you know using any search engine to locate individual names on
any website leaves a lot to be desired. As an example typing "james mckane"
into any search engine will find instances of James McKane with the two words
beside each other and in that order only. If you only type james mckane
(without the quotes) you then get every page with the two words anywhere on
those pages......... meaning you might find Thomas McKane and James Smith in
your results but not James McKane.
INVESTIGATION - I have invested a lot of time lately including investing in
considerable with a professional programmer in an attempt to find an automated
solution to the problem which has resulted in......... there is NO easy way!
Why? Well the major reason is CTI has far too many types of records in far too
many formats to automate the process.
SOLUTION - The ONLY solution is plain brute force............ meaning manually
creating spreadsheet lists of surnames and firstnames for each page on CTI. I
would then massage those lists into a fully searchable database similar to the
one recently created for the Tithe Applotment Books.
QUESTIONS FOR YOU -
- Do you feel this is a worthwhile project?
- If so, would you be willing to type some lists for us?
- If so, please give us an idea of how many hour/days/weeks you might expect
to dedicate to our project.
If you wish to keep your responses private, please email me directly off-list
at [email protected]
Thanks for your consideration,Jim McKane, webmaster
Jim McKane
South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario
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