Thanks very much Kerry; I really appreciate your kind sentiments. There are more files and submissions to come, however some days that there are not enough hours for all that I would wish to achieve; certainly no time to accept any sort of award. All the best and regards, Len
Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10 ________________________________ From: CoTyroneList <[email protected]> on behalf of Kerry Dunn <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, July 7, 2018 4:51:37 AM To: CoTyroneIreland.com Mailing List Subject: Re: [CoTyroneMailingList] Improving Searches on CTI - RESPONSE REQUIRED It does not go unnoticed that Len deserves a Hero award. Kerry On Jul 6, 2018, at 11:18 AM, Jim McKane <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Just to clarify - this would not be REDOing the existing pages but simply typing lists of surnames and firstnames. New pages are being added in the best possible formats and have been for several years; however, as has been pointed out we have soooooooooooo many different types of data. You may also note that other than the very odd entry 99% of our transcriptions are being done by only ONE person............. Len Swindley. Regards Jim Jim McKane South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 1:30 PM Kerry Dunn <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Building on the idea of an outline of best practices, I wonder if it would be feasible to develop guidelines to standardize many/most future submissions so that search results would be improved going forward (or a new database developed easily from future submission). I don’t think it would be possible to have a consistent format for all documents. But, for documents that lend themselves to table or spreadsheet formats, it seems like it might be doable. For other types of documents, perhaps some type of summary of names could be recommended for inclusion, akin to an appendix or table of contents of names/townlands in a set format. Regarding existing documents, I think I prefer to see efforts go into expanding the great info posted on the site rather than redoing old info. That said, if there are listers who don’t transcribe and would like to otherwise contribute, redoing existing records into a standardized format over time could be a useful contribution. Doing so effectively would likely require someone (Jim?) to prioritize existing documents to get maximum bang for the effort. And, any redos really need independent proofreading to keep errors from creeping in...we all make errors from time to time despite our best efforts. Finding this site allowed me to locate more of my family history than I ever thought possible when I started my research a little over a year ago. As a new researcher, I want to shout out a big Thank You to this fantastic community. Kerry Gail Dunn Albany, California On Jul 6, 2018, at 9:36 AM, K Cooper <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: I agree with Boyd. Perhaps someone could produce an outline of best search strategies with the existing search tool. Kathleen On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 7:38 AM Jim McKane <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Thanks Boyd Jim McKane South Bruce Peninsula, Ontario On Fri, Jul 6, 2018 at 10:36 AM Boyd Gray <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Jim, On balance, I would say it is not worthwhile. Yes, it is very useful, almost essential, for big databases such as the TABs. And I would dearly love someone to do it for Catholic Parish Records!! But the amount of work required in order to do it for the multifarious sources in CTI is just not a good way to spend your time, in my opinion anyway. I have found plenty of useful information by a judicious use of your current simple search system. I try various combinations of people's names and townland names or churches or parishes and then the little headings that are thrown up are usually enough for me to tell which will be useful. This is very often how I find Len's transcriptions of BMD notices in old newspapers. Others may think different but my advice would be to leave it. Your search engine for TABs is a great help but that only works because it is one database. Regards, Boyd https://www.westulstergenealogy.com/ https://www.facebook.com/westulstergenealogy/ http://familytrees.genopro.com/boydgray26/Boyd/ On 6 July 2018 at 13:25, Jim McKane <[email protected]<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: Hi CTI Supporters - PROBLEM - as you know using any search engine to locate individual names on any website leaves a lot to be desired. As an example typing "james mckane" into any search engine will find instances of James McKane with the two words beside each other and in that order only. If you only type james mckane (without the quotes) you then get every page with the two words anywhere on those pages......... meaning you might find Thomas McKane and James Smith in your results but not James McKane. INVESTIGATION - I have invested a lot of time lately including investing in considerable with a professional programmer in an attempt to find an automated solution to the problem which has resulted in......... there is NO easy way! Why? Well the major reason is CTI has far too many types of records in far too many formats to automate the process. SOLUTION - The ONLY solution is plain brute force............ meaning manually creating spreadsheet lists of surnames and firstnames for each page on CTI. I would then massage those lists into a fully searchable database similar to the one recently created for the Tithe Applotment Books. QUESTIONS FOR YOU - * Do you feel this is a worthwhile project? * If so, would you be willing to type some lists for us? * If so, please give us an idea of how many hour/days/weeks you might expect to dedicate to our project. 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