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At 12:24 PM 11/27/00 -0800, ken townsend wrote:
>Hi all, I was talking to a guy that was also a member of the coupe
>"gliders"
>club. He told me that a piece of the shellac coating on the fuselage tank
>float
>came off and plugged his fuel line. He said I should change to a
different
>type
>of float but wasn't sure what.

The newer floats come in two versions. One for avgas, and one for
environments
where there may be auto-fuel present. Actually, if the shellac was
dissolved
by the fuel, it's likely the fuel had alcohol in it, which is a no-no in
any case,
MoGas STC or not. It may well be that the slug of alky was in gas from
twenty
or a hundred fill-ups previous, too.

Epoxy (not polyester) resin is one coating which should be all-fuel safe
on
a cork. If
I were doing a MoGas STC on a 'Coupe with older fuel floats, I'd coat the
corks
in that stuff. It can be simple as mixing up a pot of common epoxy glue
and
coating
everything thoroughly with an acid brush. I say the latter because they
are
cheap,
and the brush ain't gonna be good for anything brushing-wise again.

Skyport has float gauges that are certified auto-gas safe. Being of the
rain-proof
variety, they also keep water out of the tanks and give you something to
mark
relative fuel levels upon.

>Would the primer be a possibility to use for fuel if this happened in
>flight?

The answer to this question can be divined simply by putting your head
under
the panel and looking at how the primer is plumbed. Assume the fuel outlet
from the header was blocked: Would fuel to the primer be flowing?

It's always good to get to know, first hand, the systems of the airplane
you fly.
So duck under there and tell us what you found.

>And lastly, my fuselage fuel gauge moves to "low" when climbing but will
>come
>back to "normal" soon (but not immediately) after I go straight and
level.

How low does it go?

Mine does that too, a little. But not quite as you describe, so read on.

>The
>way the tank is built and the location of the float make me think the
>guage
>should be reading "full" during climb. I wonder if my fuel pump is
putting
>out
>enough fuel to keep the tank full at full throttle. Again it is not a
>problem in
>level flight, it only occurs in hard climbs.

You have to consider the location of the overflow as well. Mine tends to
come up low-ish when I level off from a climb. I believe that is because
the
flat 'pan' of a tank is overflowing more vigorously at any angle other
than
flat. Now, it's not real low, maybe a half-inch lower than its static
on-the-ground
position. Really, after any maneuvering at all, the float tends to be a
little lower
than after prolonged straight-and-level flight.

For an illustration of why, take a flat cake pan and fill up with water to
1/4" of the
brim. Note how very LITTLE you have to lift one end or one corner to spill
some
water out. Then think about the deck-angle during climbing flight. Try and
see
where your overflow is located and do some thought-experiments using your
cake pan.

Consider whether what you're seeing is during the climb or after the
climb.
Does it keep going down? If you're in a deficit situation, it's going to
keep going
down to the stop (and that 'stop is more ways than one').

>Any suggestions? Quick check for the fuel pump?

Assuming you can do it without red-lining, why not open the throttle to
climb
power in level flight and fly that way for a while? Does the pump keep up?
If so, then it's capable of pumping more fuel then the engine is capable
of
drinking. Now this is not a totally true test, because your RPM's will be
higher and the pump will be going faster.  But it's another data point.
In my case, it's only a couple of hundred RPMs so it's pretty close.

Perhaps the best test is whether the float goes to a certain point in a
climb at a constant deck angle, and stays there, or if it shows signs
of going all the way down to the end. If it were me conducting the test,
I'd probably do it right over a good airport, just in case...

All of this illustrates an important point about the Ercoupe fuel system:
the
header tank capacity as marked is the MAXIMUM capacity. I'd guess that
mine is down a good gallon for a few minutes after a climb to 3000 feet,
just due to the angle of the airplane. That means that, if the fuel pump
went just then, I'd have a bit less time than promised to select a landing
spot.

By the way, I mark the nominal level of the header tank on my Rain-Proof
gauge's glass via application of a red ponytail elastic. A rubber band
will
work,
too. The level marked is the level after the engine has been ground-run
for
a few minutes, and with the plane parked level. I find that doing so has
caused me to spend a lot less time wondering 'is that float going down?
Nah, it isn't well maybe it is, nah, it's just because you're over 50
miles of
unbroken forest, well maybe it really is, nah...' Now I just ask... 'is
that
engine rough?' or 'was that a mis-fire?' Hell if we didn't have anything
to
fret about, we'd just fall asleep.

Greg


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