On 2002.02.18 21:21 M.B. wrote:
> > I'd skip the RPM business and compile from first principles, but 
> that's
> > just me.
> 
> With my little experience, RPM I would think is better for me.  I did
> install Mysql and PHP 4.1.1 from source but I found a great tutorial
> for it
> 
> If people were not getting this to work with RPM, I am sure it would 
> be
> noted somewhere
  The fact that the Courier writers do not provide an RPM should be 
taken as a caution. When I first started using courier, I tried making 
RPMs, but found that the assumtions made in the process were not valid 
for my machine, and the testing suite was not available to diagnose 
installation problems. So I took out the RPMs, compiled the source and 
got courier running rather quickly.

> > I think the more important question is whether you've been through
> > Sam's test suite. Have you read the INSTALL page yet?
> 
> I did read the INSTALL page and the one in the TAR.  The problem I 
> find is
> it is not clear on what you HAVE to do if you are using RPM's.  There 
> are
> quite a few things the INSTALL file says to do but its more geared to
> compiling from source, I find very few instruction when using RPM.
> Half the stuff is in a different place using RPM

The testing suite must be done to verify proper installation. Compiling 
from source makes the perftest much more feasible.

> I dont know, it might be me, but there should be an RPM.INSTALL file
> detailing what needs to be done going the RPM route.  Honeslty,  I
> dont know what I HAVE MUST do after installing the RPM's

Given the complexity of installation of server-level software, my 
opinion is that making RPMs an option is doing a disservice to the 
system administrator (IMHO only). Having said that, by carefully 
following the directions in INSTALL, you'll find that compilation of 
courier is much easier than it looks.

> Then it says if you are using webadmin the rest of the file can be
> configured with it.  There is no documentation on webadmin, if someone
> needed to use it they obviously dont have all the terminolgy down.
> 
> If I could configure it without webadmin, I would not need to use 
> webadmin,
> and since I do there should be explanation on what all those settings 
> are
> for.

If you study the documentation for the configuration files, you'll 
understand the settings in webadmin. At thqat point, webadmin is an 
easier way to alter those settings.

> Whats Sam's test suite.  I did not see anything called Sam's test
> suite.

 From Post-Installation Setup onward in the INSTALL doc.
http://www.courier-mta.org/install.html#postinst

> Courier seems like a great piece of software.  I chose it because it 
> is an
> full mail server in one package.  I figures it would be best to have 
> one
> system running POP, SMTP, WEBMAIL, a WEBADMIN was a bonus good feature

You're right on that point. :)

> Is there a site with more detailed instruction using RPM's

To my knowledge, no.

David M. Stowell
Ravenslake Consulting
Chicago, IL

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