Gordon Messmer wrote on 07/10/2008 05:46 AM:
>
> If you want more information about the environment, you can also 
> change .courier-default to:
>
> | set > /tmp/sanghas-list-env.txt
> | /usr/bin/couriermlm ctlmsg /home/sanghas/sanghas-list
>
> After delivering the message, examine /tmp/sanghas-list-env.txt to see 
> what's being set in DEFAULT.
Great idea - thanks!  This allowed me to find an fix the problem!!

By adding the environment tracking to all the .courier files I was able 
to verify that none of them were used for mail to sanghas-help, whereas 
other sanghas- administrative commands worked exactly as expected.  This 
left the only possibility being some courier alias for sanghas-help.  I 
had checked that earlier in courierwebadmin and there were none, but 
with no other possibilities I looked more carefully in 
/etc/courier/aliases.  There was a webadmin~ file!!  courierwebadmin did 
not show its contents, but courier did treat it as aliases!!

On my old server the list was managed as a courier alias, but this led 
to a number of problems, a primary one being that it has so many members 
that many common sites rejected incoming messages because they had so 
many recipients.  cmlm addresses that with a better delivery mechanism.  
I ported over my old aliases/webadmin file and edited it in emacs 
initially as that was faster that courierwebadmin, but then reverted to 
use of courierwebadmin going forward.  But forgot about the pesky 
webadmin~ files, which was invisible to courierwebadmin, but not to 
courier.  Coincidentally and unknown to me, the list owner, whom I'd 
granted access to courierwebadmin to manage the list, had used a 
sanghas-help alias to herself!  I had deleted all the sanghas stuff out 
of aliases/webadmin when porting it and completely missed that 
aliases/sanghas-help was even there in the old version.

Stupid problem.  Sorry for all the traffic and thanks so much for the 
suggestion!

Chuck


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