I believe that the four value pillars set the conditions for getting beyond
security and externalized trust models:

   1. Collaboration
   2. Openness
   3. Community
   4. Sustainability

Especially the community part. In the past (almost) year we've been open,
only a few small issues have come up: someone walked off with a power
adapter they thought was theirs, a group using the space for the event left
behind a mess and a few books from the library have taken extended leaves of
absence (but they find their way back eventually).

We don't do any 'advertising', only fostering a positive word of mouth
within our community. We meet everyone who walks through the door. It makes
for a very positive environment. People contribute to the space because of
it, too. They don't see us as 'owners' - they all 'own' it.

We couldn't afford to do the whole security camera, etc. model anyway, but
we are looking into a card key system for all spaces that want to
participate that will tie us into coworkination and help us track usage and
who is there. But once again, it's based on a community model, not a
security model.

Tara



On 9/19/07, Chris Messina <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Hmm, "many" of us? I'm not sure I've heard of any...!
>
> At least from a "come one, come all" sense.
>
> Our tenants have 24 hour access but only because we give them keys. In
> reality people are in the office from around 10am - 6pm during the
> week, less on the weekends (it's like a regular work schedule!).
> Occasionally folks will stay late, or we'll host evening events, but
> we certainly don't advertise or offer our space to drop-ins past 6pm
> unless a key-holder happens to be staying late and doesn't mind the
> company.
>
> Citizen Space also doesn't "staff" the space -- that is, we don't make
> our tenants responsible for keeping the place open for drop-ins. We
> learned that lesson the hard way with our first space: it's better to
> charge folks for a consistent service that they're going to use than
> to try to also get those same folks to take up responsibility for
> running the place.
>
> That said, if your model is to offer open doors and charge, say,
> hourly, then having dedicated staff to do so is probably a good idea;
> in that case, however, due to both the "changing of the guard" and the
> element of randomness in your patrons, it's sometimes harder to
> predict what might or might not go wrong (hence the need for insurance
> and whatnot).
>
> We've been very fortunate to have found reliable and responsible
> people to fill our space; we carry insurance of course, but also know
> that we can trust our tenants. We haven't needed to invest in any
> additional security (knock on wood) and instead rely on each citizen
> to treat and protect the space as they wood their own office.
>
> Judging from your website, your model seems a bit different from ours,
> in which case I'll condition my comments by saying that what we do
> won't necessarily work for everyone. It's really more important that
> you figure out and define for yourself what kind of culture and
> community you want to create and nurture and then make your decisions
> accordingly.
>
> We still don't require agreements (of any kind) with our tenants and
> in the 10 months that we've been running our space, haven't had an
> issue. We've maintained this aspect of the space as a design decision
> in order to enculturate a sense of trust and responsibility in our
> members. We treat them like the adults that they are, and we expect
> the same in return. Not surprisingly, the culture of Citizen Space, at
> least to me, seems to exude trust and pride. If you set up rules and
> protections against what might (or might not) someday happen, your
> potential customers will treat you the same way -- and will
> potentially shield themselves from you and from investing themselves
> in your space.
>
> Every little decision that we make in setting up our coworking spaces
> has ongoing consequences, and that's why it's worth reconsidering
> everything that you've been told you should do. Just because it worked
> for someone else before, or because someone else got screwed in the
> past and says that you should protect yourself in such a way as to
> distrust by default, doesn't mean that it's the right thing for you to
> do (and I'm not making any assumptions, only pointing out a general
> principle).
>
> So, with that, I'm not sure trying to stay open 24/7 makes sense. Or,
> if it does, play it by ear -- and if you suddenly have 15 people
> showing up wanting access 24/7 that they're willing to pay for, make a
> move then. There's no sense in prematurely optimizing at a great
> expense for situtations that may never arise in practice.
>
> Chris
>
> On 9/19/07, Sasha <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > Many of you made your spaces with 24/7 access. What's the secret? How
> > do you pull that off with insurance and general security for members?
> > Has anybody have any problems with it?
> > We're trying to decide whether to make it 24/7 or just open till 10pm
> > (staffed)...
> >
> > Thanks!
> > Sasha Vasilyuk
> > Sandbox Suites
> >
> >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Chris Messina
> Citizen Provocateur &
>   Open Source Advocate-at-Large
> Work: http://citizenagency.com
> Blog: http://factoryjoe.com/blog
> Cell: 412 225-1051
> Skype: factoryjoe
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> >
>


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tara 'miss rogue' hunt
co-founder & CMO
Citizen Agency (www.citizenagency.com)
blog: www.horsepigcow.com
phone: 415-694-1951
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