Not everyone who is interested in coworking necessarily has the same
objectives.  Nothing wrong with that, either.  Some are very much co-
op kinds of people; others are motivated by profit potential.  I think
there's room in the tent for both, personally.

On Feb 9, 1:31 pm, "Darryl F. Howard" <[email protected]> wrote:
> All I know is that the people that run these executive centers are very
> aware of coworking movement. I am pretty sure they are nervous and want to
> learn more. Some of them have real deep pockets. Maturing markets bring
> competition and shake out. Believe we should real cautious about any
> information we share. My 2 cents.
>
> Darryl F. Howard
> Space Logix
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
>
> Behalf Of Eli Malinsky
> Sent: Tuesday, February 09, 2010 9:42 AM
> To: Coworking
> Subject: [Coworking] Re: Coworking Annual Meeting???
>
> For what it's worth, I definitely don't think an association with ABCN
> is the right move...i think it confuses the picture and also situates
> the coworking movement within a very typical association model (and
> subordinates it to a larger industry). i think an annual conference is
> great and the idea of doing something unique, unconferencey, and
> distributed is directly in line with coworking values.
>
> Eli Malinsky
> Centre for Social Innovation
>
> On Feb 8, 1:00 pm, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> wrote:
> > it's not uncommon for our members to be business center refugees ("I tried
> > working at Regus...that sucked"), and we actively work to create language
> > and activities to help people understand the difference between executive
> > business centers and coworking. I know we are not alone in this mission.
>
> > I can't see us aligning with the goals or values of an executive business
> > center organization, and so, I can't see us working with one. This feels
> > like potential for serious confusion for prospective coworking
> communities,
> > and a distraction for ones that are already in progress.
>
> > Not to say it can't be done, but I'm cautious of how this takes place.
>
> > -Alex
>
> > /ah
> > indyhall.org
> > coworking in philadelphia
>
> > On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:51 PM, James Hackett <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > I have been collaborating with the head of ABCN already. That org is a
> > > global network of exec centers.  Coworking technically falls under a
> niche
> > > within biz centers and I've just proposed to ABCN to create a new,
> separate
> > > group. We utilize their experience with alliances and therefore their
> > > infrastructure.
>
> > > Any thoughts or serious objections?
>
> > > Collaborating with a group like ABCN seems like a great natural fit for
> > > co-working locations Jerome. I'd love to hear/talk more and get
> involved.
>
> > > James
> > > Cruzio Internet
>
> > > On Feb 7, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Jerome Chang wrote:
>
> > > Oh. Traditional is fine. I just thought having much further discussion
> > > about a co-op would be reinventingte wheel. From what I've seen, we have
> two
> > > related proposals:
> > >    1. National org/network/co-op
> > >    2. National conference
>
> > > Forming #1 would assign the people/resources toward creating #1 and at
> the
> > > same time, create add'l discussions/collaborations/benefits throughout
> the
> > > year regardless of the conference.
>
> > > I have been collaborating with the head of ABCN already. That org is a
> > > global network of exec centers.  Coworking technically falls under a
> niche
> > > within biz centers and I've just proposed to ABCN to create a new,
> separate
> > > group. We utilize their experience with alliances and therefore their
> > > infrastructure.
>
> > > Any thoughts or serious objections?
>
> > > Jerome
>
> > > On Feb 7, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Mike Schinkel <[email protected]>
> > > wrote:
>
> > > Sounds like a "traditional" alliance or org that services all coworking
> > > facilities.  Members pitch in a monthly/yearly amount to an org that
> returns
> > > them benefits, etc.
>
> > > So, do you think "traditional" is good or bad?
>
> > > -Mike
>
> > > On Feb 7, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Jerome Chang wrote:
>
> > > Sounds like a "traditional" alliance or org that services all coworking
> > > facilities.  Members pitch in a monthly/yearly amount to an org that
> returns
> > > them benefits, etc.
>
> > >   ______________
> > > BLANKSPACES
> > > "work wide open"
>
> > > <http://www.blankspaces.com/>www.blankspaces.com
> > > 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea)
> > > Los Angeles, CA 90036
> > > 323.330.9505 (office)
>
> > > On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote:
>
> > > Hi all,
>
> > > The first thing I thought about when I saw this topic come through was
> > > "Great, yet another expense on top of all the other expenses we have."
>
> > > As some of you know we operate Ignition Alley mostly as a service to our
> > > local startup and freelance community and much less to generate a
> profit.
> > >  Attending a conference means probably $1000+ in travel expenses and
> that is
> > > not attractive.
>
> > > But then I thought "This need not be like commercial conferences, it
> could
> > > be in run like coworking itself as a collaborative for the benefit of
> those
> > > who participate and not as a way for someone to make money."  So at a
> very
> > > high level I'd like to propose the following without having worked out
> all
> > > the details:
>
> > > -- Create a coworking facility co-op
>
> > > -- Each facility that wants to can participate in the co-op
>
> > > -- The co-op runs the conference
>
> > > -- Co-op members work to get sponsors
>
> > > -- The co-op markets to economic development agencies, chambers of
> > > commerce, and major corporations[1] for paid attendance
>
> > > -- Co-op members get their cut of the profits which help them pay to
> attend
> > > the event
>
> > > Thoughts?
>
> > > -Mike Schinkel
> > > Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking
> > > <http://ignitionalley.com/>http://ignitionalley.com
>
> > > [1] Major corporations are starting to look to the coworking model to be
> > > greener in facility use and to maximize worker/space density to cut
> costs.
>
> > > On Feb 3, 2010, at 10:30 PM, rachel young wrote:
>
> > > I think an annual coworking conference is a great idea, something
> dedicated
> > > to coworking, not tacked on to another event. Something where we could
> focus
> > > on coworking and community issues, meet each other, see one another's
> cities
> > > and spaces. I'm in!
>
> > > There would have to be a lot of value to it in order to bring these
> already
> > > busy and stretched folks our of their spaces for a few days, though,
> > > something that could leverage our buying power for, I dunno, office
> > > furniture or health care benefits or travel discounts or something.
> > > Something where we can not only have those providers/suppliers sponsor
> the
> > > event to offset costs, but to provide real value that would be worth
> > > traveling for.
>
> > > I've been involved in a few organisations that are spread across
> multiple
> > > timezones or parts of the world, and they have decided on location in
> > > similar fashions, which is basically that host cities post their
> proposals
> > > and the community votes on where it should be, perhaps one vote per
> > > coworking facility. We can build in assurance that it won't always be in
> the
> > > same cities or parts of the country all the time so that people in, say,
> the
> > > west coast don't alwyas have to travel to the east coast. (ie, establish
> > > general zones and ensure the annual event rotates between zones)
>
> > > Anyway, I think it is certainly worth exploring, and being an event
> planner
> > > I am all for it.
>
> > > I put your suggested starting topics onto a wiki page
> (<http://coworking.pbworks.com/Coworking-Conference>
> > >http://coworking.pbworks.com/Coworking-Conference), which I think would
> be
> > > better to collaborate from there. I do think that this would take some
> time
> > > to plan out properly (and give folks some time to save up some money),
> so if
> > > you were thinking of escaping the winter conditions in the next few
> months,
> > > then perhaps sxswi is your better option for this year.
> > > r.
>
> > > --
> > > rachel young
> > > <[email protected]>[email protected]
> > > (416) 801-0196
>
> > > Find us in person:
> > > Camaraderie
> > > 102 Adelaide St E, 2nd Floor
>
> > > Find us online:
> > >  <http://camaraderie.ca/blog>camaraderie.ca/blog
> > > <http://twitter.com/camaraderie>twitter.com/camaraderie
>
> > >  <http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/t/85443a86ec7592c2>
>
> > >    Woodie Neiss < <[email protected]>[email protected]> Jan 30 09:49AM
> > >    -0500
>
> > >    Anyone want to get together for the first International Coworking
> > >    Community Annual Meeting in ummm let’s say a warm, sunny place like
> Miami?
> > >    Sort of a one day event where we could discuss best practices, set
> some
> > >    protocols for future coworking locations and formally organize
> ourselves so
> > >    that we can leverage our combined power?
>
> > >    Suggested topics to discuss (feel free to edit/add to/delete/etc)
>
> > >    1) Keys to success
>
> > >    a. pricing
>
> > >    b. Serivices to offer
>
> > >    2) Managing the bottom line
>
> > >    a. Financing the start up
>
> > >    b. Negotiating lease agreements
>
> > >    c. Managing monthly expenses
>
> > >    3) Marketing & PR
>
> > >    a. Building awareness
>
> > >    b. How to generate more buzz
>
> > >    c. The power of meet-ups
>
> > >    d. Leveraging your chamber of commerce
>
> > >    4) Creative suggestions from some of our winning locations
>
> > >    5) How to formally organize ourselves into an International
> > >    organization
>
> > >    Perhaps we could all complete some surveys prior, and then present
> the
> > >    results at the meeting as well?
>
> > >    Regards,
> > >    Woodie
>
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