Hi Guys, I'm all for taking this offline so we aren't bombarding people with emails. Is there a way to move this discussion into a subfolder on the google groups and then we can take it from there?
Regards, Woodie On Feb 9, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Eli Malinsky wrote: > For what it's worth, I definitely don't think an association with ABCN > is the right move...i think it confuses the picture and also situates > the coworking movement within a very typical association model (and > subordinates it to a larger industry). i think an annual conference is > great and the idea of doing something unique, unconferencey, and > distributed is directly in line with coworking values. > > Eli Malinsky > Centre for Social Innovation > > > > > On Feb 8, 1:00 pm, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> wrote: >> it's not uncommon for our members to be business center refugees ("I tried >> working at Regus...that sucked"), and we actively work to create language >> and activities to help people understand the difference between executive >> business centers and coworking. I know we are not alone in this mission. >> >> I can't see us aligning with the goals or values of an executive business >> center organization, and so, I can't see us working with one. This feels >> like potential for serious confusion for prospective coworking communities, >> and a distraction for ones that are already in progress. >> >> Not to say it can't be done, but I'm cautious of how this takes place. >> >> -Alex >> >> /ah >> indyhall.org >> coworking in philadelphia >> >> >> >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:51 PM, James Hackett <[email protected]> wrote: >>> I have been collaborating with the head of ABCN already. That org is a >>> global network of exec centers. Coworking technically falls under a niche >>> within biz centers and I've just proposed to ABCN to create a new, separate >>> group. We utilize their experience with alliances and therefore their >>> infrastructure. >> >>> Any thoughts or serious objections? >> >>> Collaborating with a group like ABCN seems like a great natural fit for >>> co-working locations Jerome. I'd love to hear/talk more and get involved. >> >>> James >>> Cruzio Internet >> >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Jerome Chang wrote: >> >>> Oh. Traditional is fine. I just thought having much further discussion >>> about a co-op would be reinventingte wheel. From what I've seen, we have two >>> related proposals: >>> 1. National org/network/co-op >>> 2. National conference >> >>> Forming #1 would assign the people/resources toward creating #1 and at the >>> same time, create add'l discussions/collaborations/benefits throughout the >>> year regardless of the conference. >> >>> I have been collaborating with the head of ABCN already. That org is a >>> global network of exec centers. Coworking technically falls under a niche >>> within biz centers and I've just proposed to ABCN to create a new, separate >>> group. We utilize their experience with alliances and therefore their >>> infrastructure. >> >>> Any thoughts or serious objections? >> >>> Jerome >> >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Mike Schinkel <[email protected]> >>> wrote: >> >>> Sounds like a "traditional" alliance or org that services all coworking >>> facilities. Members pitch in a monthly/yearly amount to an org that returns >>> them benefits, etc. >> >>> So, do you think "traditional" is good or bad? >> >>> -Mike >> >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Jerome Chang wrote: >> >>> Sounds like a "traditional" alliance or org that services all coworking >>> facilities. Members pitch in a monthly/yearly amount to an org that returns >>> them benefits, etc. >> >>> ______________ >>> BLANKSPACES >>> "work wide open" >> >>> <http://www.blankspaces.com/>www.blankspaces.com >>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) >>> Los Angeles, CA 90036 >>> 323.330.9505 (office) >> >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote: >> >>> Hi all, >> >>> The first thing I thought about when I saw this topic come through was >>> "Great, yet another expense on top of all the other expenses we have." >> >>> As some of you know we operate Ignition Alley mostly as a service to our >>> local startup and freelance community and much less to generate a profit. >>> Attending a conference means probably $1000+ in travel expenses and that is >>> not attractive. >> >>> But then I thought "This need not be like commercial conferences, it could >>> be in run like coworking itself as a collaborative for the benefit of those >>> who participate and not as a way for someone to make money." So at a very >>> high level I'd like to propose the following without having worked out all >>> the details: >> >>> -- Create a coworking facility co-op >> >>> -- Each facility that wants to can participate in the co-op >> >>> -- The co-op runs the conference >> >>> -- Co-op members work to get sponsors >> >>> -- The co-op markets to economic development agencies, chambers of >>> commerce, and major corporations[1] for paid attendance >> >>> -- Co-op members get their cut of the profits which help them pay to attend >>> the event >> >>> Thoughts? >> >>> -Mike Schinkel >>> Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking >>> <http://ignitionalley.com/>http://ignitionalley.com >> >>> [1] Major corporations are starting to look to the coworking model to be >>> greener in facility use and to maximize worker/space density to cut costs. >> >>> On Feb 3, 2010, at 10:30 PM, rachel young wrote: >> >>> I think an annual coworking conference is a great idea, something dedicated >>> to coworking, not tacked on to another event. Something where we could focus >>> on coworking and community issues, meet each other, see one another's cities >>> and spaces. I'm in! >> >>> There would have to be a lot of value to it in order to bring these already >>> busy and stretched folks our of their spaces for a few days, though, >>> something that could leverage our buying power for, I dunno, office >>> furniture or health care benefits or travel discounts or something. >>> Something where we can not only have those providers/suppliers sponsor the >>> event to offset costs, but to provide real value that would be worth >>> traveling for. >> >>> I've been involved in a few organisations that are spread across multiple >>> timezones or parts of the world, and they have decided on location in >>> similar fashions, which is basically that host cities post their proposals >>> and the community votes on where it should be, perhaps one vote per >>> coworking facility. We can build in assurance that it won't always be in the >>> same cities or parts of the country all the time so that people in, say, the >>> west coast don't alwyas have to travel to the east coast. (ie, establish >>> general zones and ensure the annual event rotates between zones) >> >>> Anyway, I think it is certainly worth exploring, and being an event planner >>> I am all for it. >> >>> I put your suggested starting topics onto a wiki page >>> (<http://coworking.pbworks.com/Coworking-Conference> >>> http://coworking.pbworks.com/Coworking-Conference), which I think would be >>> better to collaborate from there. I do think that this would take some time >>> to plan out properly (and give folks some time to save up some money), so if >>> you were thinking of escaping the winter conditions in the next few months, >>> then perhaps sxswi is your better option for this year. >>> r. >> >>> -- >>> rachel young >>> <[email protected]>[email protected] >>> (416) 801-0196 >> >>> Find us in person: >>> Camaraderie >>> 102 Adelaide St E, 2nd Floor >> >>> Find us online: >>> <http://camaraderie.ca/blog>camaraderie.ca/blog >>> <http://twitter.com/camaraderie>twitter.com/camaraderie >> >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/t/85443a86ec7592c2> >> >>> Woodie Neiss < <[email protected]>[email protected]> Jan 30 09:49AM >>> -0500 >> >>> Anyone want to get together for the first International Coworking >>> Community Annual Meeting in ummm let’s say a warm, sunny place like Miami? >>> Sort of a one day event where we could discuss best practices, set some >>> protocols for future coworking locations and formally organize ourselves >>> so >>> that we can leverage our combined power? >> >>> Suggested topics to discuss (feel free to edit/add to/delete/etc) >> >>> 1) Keys to success >> >>> a. pricing >> >>> b. Serivices to offer >> >>> 2) Managing the bottom line >> >>> a. Financing the start up >> >>> b. Negotiating lease agreements >> >>> c. Managing monthly expenses >> >>> 3) Marketing & PR >> >>> a. Building awareness >> >>> b. How to generate more buzz >> >>> c. The power of meet-ups >> >>> d. Leveraging your chamber of commerce >> >>> 4) Creative suggestions from some of our winning locations >> >>> 5) How to formally organize ourselves into an International >>> organization >> >>> Perhaps we could all complete some surveys prior, and then present the >>> results at the meeting as well? >> >>> Regards, >>> Woodie >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Coworking" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Coworking" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Coworking" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> <[email protected]> >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en> >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Coworking" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Coworking" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more >> >> ... >> >> read more »- Hide quoted text - >> >> - Show quoted text - > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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