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On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:42 AM, Woodie Neiss <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Guys, > > I'm all for taking this offline so we aren't bombarding people with emails. > Is there a way to move this discussion into a subfolder on the google > groups and then we can take it from there? > > Regards, > Woodie > > On Feb 9, 2010, at 9:41 AM, Eli Malinsky wrote: > > > For what it's worth, I definitely don't think an association with ABCN > > is the right move...i think it confuses the picture and also situates > > the coworking movement within a very typical association model (and > > subordinates it to a larger industry). i think an annual conference is > > great and the idea of doing something unique, unconferencey, and > > distributed is directly in line with coworking values. > > > > Eli Malinsky > > Centre for Social Innovation > > > > > > > > > > On Feb 8, 1:00 pm, Alex Hillman <[email protected]> wrote: > >> it's not uncommon for our members to be business center refugees ("I > tried > >> working at Regus...that sucked"), and we actively work to create > language > >> and activities to help people understand the difference between > executive > >> business centers and coworking. I know we are not alone in this mission. > >> > >> I can't see us aligning with the goals or values of an executive > business > >> center organization, and so, I can't see us working with one. This feels > >> like potential for serious confusion for prospective coworking > communities, > >> and a distraction for ones that are already in progress. > >> > >> Not to say it can't be done, but I'm cautious of how this takes place. > >> > >> -Alex > >> > >> /ah > >> indyhall.org > >> coworking in philadelphia > >> > >> > >> > >> On Mon, Feb 8, 2010 at 12:51 PM, James Hackett <[email protected]> > wrote: > >>> I have been collaborating with the head of ABCN already. That org is a > >>> global network of exec centers. Coworking technically falls under a > niche > >>> within biz centers and I've just proposed to ABCN to create a new, > separate > >>> group. We utilize their experience with alliances and therefore their > >>> infrastructure. > >> > >>> Any thoughts or serious objections? > >> > >>> Collaborating with a group like ABCN seems like a great natural fit for > >>> co-working locations Jerome. I'd love to hear/talk more and get > involved. > >> > >>> James > >>> Cruzio Internet > >> > >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 5:06 PM, Jerome Chang wrote: > >> > >>> Oh. Traditional is fine. I just thought having much further discussion > >>> about a co-op would be reinventingte wheel. From what I've seen, we > have two > >>> related proposals: > >>> 1. National org/network/co-op > >>> 2. National conference > >> > >>> Forming #1 would assign the people/resources toward creating #1 and at > the > >>> same time, create add'l discussions/collaborations/benefits throughout > the > >>> year regardless of the conference. > >> > >>> I have been collaborating with the head of ABCN already. That org is a > >>> global network of exec centers. Coworking technically falls under a > niche > >>> within biz centers and I've just proposed to ABCN to create a new, > separate > >>> group. We utilize their experience with alliances and therefore their > >>> infrastructure. > >> > >>> Any thoughts or serious objections? > >> > >>> Jerome > >> > >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 4:13 PM, Mike Schinkel <[email protected] > > > >>> wrote: > >> > >>> Sounds like a "traditional" alliance or org that services all coworking > >>> facilities. Members pitch in a monthly/yearly amount to an org that > returns > >>> them benefits, etc. > >> > >>> So, do you think "traditional" is good or bad? > >> > >>> -Mike > >> > >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 4:16 PM, Jerome Chang wrote: > >> > >>> Sounds like a "traditional" alliance or org that services all coworking > >>> facilities. Members pitch in a monthly/yearly amount to an org that > returns > >>> them benefits, etc. > >> > >>> ______________ > >>> BLANKSPACES > >>> "work wide open" > >> > >>> <http://www.blankspaces.com/>www.blankspaces.com > >>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) > >>> Los Angeles, CA 90036 > >>> 323.330.9505 (office) > >> > >>> On Feb 7, 2010, at 7:44 AM, Mike Schinkel wrote: > >> > >>> Hi all, > >> > >>> The first thing I thought about when I saw this topic come through was > >>> "Great, yet another expense on top of all the other expenses we have." > >> > >>> As some of you know we operate Ignition Alley mostly as a service to > our > >>> local startup and freelance community and much less to generate a > profit. > >>> Attending a conference means probably $1000+ in travel expenses and > that is > >>> not attractive. > >> > >>> But then I thought "This need not be like commercial conferences, it > could > >>> be in run like coworking itself as a collaborative for the benefit of > those > >>> who participate and not as a way for someone to make money." So at a > very > >>> high level I'd like to propose the following without having worked out > all > >>> the details: > >> > >>> -- Create a coworking facility co-op > >> > >>> -- Each facility that wants to can participate in the co-op > >> > >>> -- The co-op runs the conference > >> > >>> -- Co-op members work to get sponsors > >> > >>> -- The co-op markets to economic development agencies, chambers of > >>> commerce, and major corporations[1] for paid attendance > >> > >>> -- Co-op members get their cut of the profits which help them pay to > attend > >>> the event > >> > >>> Thoughts? > >> > >>> -Mike Schinkel > >>> Ignition Alley Atlanta Coworking > >>> <http://ignitionalley.com/>http://ignitionalley.com > >> > >>> [1] Major corporations are starting to look to the coworking model to > be > >>> greener in facility use and to maximize worker/space density to cut > costs. > >> > >>> On Feb 3, 2010, at 10:30 PM, rachel young wrote: > >> > >>> I think an annual coworking conference is a great idea, something > dedicated > >>> to coworking, not tacked on to another event. Something where we could > focus > >>> on coworking and community issues, meet each other, see one another's > cities > >>> and spaces. I'm in! > >> > >>> There would have to be a lot of value to it in order to bring these > already > >>> busy and stretched folks our of their spaces for a few days, though, > >>> something that could leverage our buying power for, I dunno, office > >>> furniture or health care benefits or travel discounts or something. > >>> Something where we can not only have those providers/suppliers sponsor > the > >>> event to offset costs, but to provide real value that would be worth > >>> traveling for. > >> > >>> I've been involved in a few organisations that are spread across > multiple > >>> timezones or parts of the world, and they have decided on location in > >>> similar fashions, which is basically that host cities post their > proposals > >>> and the community votes on where it should be, perhaps one vote per > >>> coworking facility. We can build in assurance that it won't always be > in the > >>> same cities or parts of the country all the time so that people in, > say, the > >>> west coast don't alwyas have to travel to the east coast. (ie, > establish > >>> general zones and ensure the annual event rotates between zones) > >> > >>> Anyway, I think it is certainly worth exploring, and being an event > planner > >>> I am all for it. > >> > >>> I put your suggested starting topics onto a wiki page (< > http://coworking.pbworks.com/Coworking-Conference> > >>> http://coworking.pbworks.com/Coworking-Conference), which I think > would be > >>> better to collaborate from there. I do think that this would take some > time > >>> to plan out properly (and give folks some time to save up some money), > so if > >>> you were thinking of escaping the winter conditions in the next few > months, > >>> then perhaps sxswi is your better option for this year. > >>> r. > >> > >>> -- > >>> rachel young > >>> <[email protected]>[email protected] > >>> (416) 801-0196 > >> > >>> Find us in person: > >>> Camaraderie > >>> 102 Adelaide St E, 2nd Floor > >> > >>> Find us online: > >>> <http://camaraderie.ca/blog>camaraderie.ca/blog > >>> <http://twitter.com/camaraderie>twitter.com/camaraderie > >> > >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/coworking/t/85443a86ec7592c2> > >> > >>> Woodie Neiss < <[email protected]>[email protected]> Jan 30 09:49AM > >>> -0500 > >> > >>> Anyone want to get together for the first International Coworking > >>> Community Annual Meeting in ummm let’s say a warm, sunny place like > Miami? > >>> Sort of a one day event where we could discuss best practices, set > some > >>> protocols for future coworking locations and formally organize > ourselves so > >>> that we can leverage our combined power? > >> > >>> Suggested topics to discuss (feel free to edit/add to/delete/etc) > >> > >>> 1) Keys to success > >> > >>> a. pricing > >> > >>> b. Serivices to offer > >> > >>> 2) Managing the bottom line > >> > >>> a. Financing the start up > >> > >>> b. Negotiating lease agreements > >> > >>> c. Managing monthly expenses > >> > >>> 3) Marketing & PR > >> > >>> a. Building awareness > >> > >>> b. How to generate more buzz > >> > >>> c. The power of meet-ups > >> > >>> d. Leveraging your chamber of commerce > >> > >>> 4) Creative suggestions from some of our winning locations > >> > >>> 5) How to formally organize ourselves into an International > >>> organization > >> > >>> Perhaps we could all complete some surveys prior, and then present > the > >>> results at the meeting as well? > >> > >>> Regards, > >>> Woodie > >> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "Coworking" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to <[email protected]> > >>> [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> <[email protected]<coworking%[email protected]> > > > >>> [email protected]<coworking%[email protected]> > . > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en> > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > >> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "Coworking" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to <[email protected]> > >>> [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> <[email protected]<coworking%[email protected]> > > > >>> [email protected]<coworking%[email protected]> > . > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en> > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > >> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "Coworking" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to <[email protected]> > >>> [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> <[email protected]<coworking%[email protected]> > > > >>> [email protected]<coworking%[email protected]> > . > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> <http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en> > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > >> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "Coworking" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]<coworking%[email protected]> > . > >>> For more options, visit this group at > >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > >> > >>> -- > >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google > Groups > >>> "Coworking" group. > >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > >>> [email protected]<coworking%[email protected]> > . > >>> For more > >> > >> ... > >> > >> read more »- Hide quoted text - > >> > >> - Show quoted text - > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<coworking%[email protected]> > . > > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]<coworking%[email protected]> > . > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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