There are definitely some problems with the current wiki (e.g., the
repetitive messages in the rss feed), but I also think some of the
issues have been solved (as per Jacob's email) and it's not clear how
most of the other issues would be solved by migrating somewhere else.
Specifically:

1) How would a new wiki make new user access more manageable? All new
people granted access to the wiki must currently be approved by an
administrator (and that option can be changed to the same variety of
options I'm familiar with from alternatives). Wouldn't we want to have
the same process with any other provider?

2) How would migrating to a new wiki stop new spam from coming? Almost
all of the new spam on the site is coming from the 2000 or so existing
users with writer access. Unless we want to require all of these users
to re-request writer access during the migration, we're going to have
those same users with the same ability to add spam with any new host?

3) How would migrating to a new wiki get rid of existing spam? While
it's true that the site continues to be rife with existing spam due to
the past couple of years of it building up (e.g., the example sent by
Jonathan), all of that spam would be migrated to any new service
provider, wouldn't it?

4) Since the time of the changes started a month or so ago, anyone who
adds new spam to the wiki is immediately (within a day or two) blocked
writing access and their spam is removed. Jonathan, you said new spam
is still being added: Can you point to some examples? It looks to me
as though the problem of new spam being added--that isn't caught and
removed with the spammer also having their access restricted--has been
solved.

5) All that said, I know relatively little about what kinds of widgets/
gadgets/features are available with the current wiki or its
alternatives (other than google apps/sites, which I'm pretty familiar
with) that might make one or another better or worse, or how difficult
it would be to migrate from one wiki to another without losing
information. But--at least for me--to be convinced that it's a good
idea to migrate, I'd want to know how another provider would solve the
above problems (google sites can't), how easy it is to migrate without
data loss, and/or what functionality other providers have that the
current wiki doesn't have that would be useful (the current wiki seems
pretty powerful/flexible to me given the purpose the wiki serves).

Will

On Aug 3, 3:40 am, Jonathan Buford <[email protected]> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:17 AM, g33kch1ck <[email protected]> wrote:
> > wouldn't it be preferable to reallocate the amount of time you must lay
> > hands on each of those cases to something more constructive?
>
> > I think this is an edge case, so does not come up so frequently.
>
> There is still a fair amount of spam being put up. The Lean Startup Wiki
> also on the same system has 0 since they moved to a stronger opting in for
> editing. I think you have to request to be able to edit the wiki for them,
> however, the whole thing is more stable content-wise, so it is not as likely
> for someone new to come along and edit as it is on this one.
>
> Jon
>
> @jonbuford

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