I agree with what you said. I was only mentioning what I think is the posts
by current members within the system posting and then getting kicked off.
This will taper off as the remaining accounts of this nature are weeded
out.

Sorry, if it wasn't clear, I think the current wiki is fine, and that it
looks like the overhead is not too much for upkeep, and I would question
what the advantages are for moving it, as you outlined.

Jon

On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 5:08 PM, Will Bennis, Locus Workspace <
[email protected]> wrote:

> There are definitely some problems with the current wiki (e.g., the
> repetitive messages in the rss feed), but I also think some of the
> issues have been solved (as per Jacob's email) and it's not clear how
> most of the other issues would be solved by migrating somewhere else.
> Specifically:
>
> 1) How would a new wiki make new user access more manageable? All new
> people granted access to the wiki must currently be approved by an
> administrator (and that option can be changed to the same variety of
> options I'm familiar with from alternatives). Wouldn't we want to have
> the same process with any other provider?
>
> 2) How would migrating to a new wiki stop new spam from coming? Almost
> all of the new spam on the site is coming from the 2000 or so existing
> users with writer access. Unless we want to require all of these users
> to re-request writer access during the migration, we're going to have
> those same users with the same ability to add spam with any new host?
>
> 3) How would migrating to a new wiki get rid of existing spam? While
> it's true that the site continues to be rife with existing spam due to
> the past couple of years of it building up (e.g., the example sent by
> Jonathan), all of that spam would be migrated to any new service
> provider, wouldn't it?
>
> 4) Since the time of the changes started a month or so ago, anyone who
> adds new spam to the wiki is immediately (within a day or two) blocked
> writing access and their spam is removed. Jonathan, you said new spam
> is still being added: Can you point to some examples? It looks to me
> as though the problem of new spam being added--that isn't caught and
> removed with the spammer also having their access restricted--has been
> solved.
>
> 5) All that said, I know relatively little about what kinds of widgets/
> gadgets/features are available with the current wiki or its
> alternatives (other than google apps/sites, which I'm pretty familiar
> with) that might make one or another better or worse, or how difficult
> it would be to migrate from one wiki to another without losing
> information. But--at least for me--to be convinced that it's a good
> idea to migrate, I'd want to know how another provider would solve the
> above problems (google sites can't), how easy it is to migrate without
> data loss, and/or what functionality other providers have that the
> current wiki doesn't have that would be useful (the current wiki seems
> pretty powerful/flexible to me given the purpose the wiki serves).
>
> Will
>
> On Aug 3, 3:40 am, Jonathan Buford <[email protected]> wrote:
> > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 6:17 AM, g33kch1ck <[email protected]> wrote:
> > > wouldn't it be preferable to reallocate the amount of time you must lay
> > > hands on each of those cases to something more constructive?
> >
> > > I think this is an edge case, so does not come up so frequently.
> >
> > There is still a fair amount of spam being put up. The Lean Startup Wiki
> > also on the same system has 0 since they moved to a stronger opting in
> for
> > editing. I think you have to request to be able to edit the wiki for
> them,
> > however, the whole thing is more stable content-wise, so it is not as
> likely
> > for someone new to come along and edit as it is on this one.
> >
> > Jon
> >
> > @jonbuford
>
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