Thanks Mike :)

I think we make our own luck by being keen observers, and knowing what we
want.

It's easy to hire someone to do the menial tasks around an office. But we're
not "just an office", so why should our help be "just help".

It's a big win for everyone.


/ah
indyhall.org
coworking in philadelphia


On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 10:32 AM, Mike Weiss <m...@mjmediateam.com> wrote:

> Alex, it looks like you have just the right amount of an eye for
> talent and luck on your side.
>
> On Aug 17, 9:30 am, Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Parker is round 2 of the experience, being a successor to Dana.
> >
> > Dana's story is a little different (I didn't bring it up because it
> didn't
> > exactly address Slate's question).
> >
> > To keep it relatively brief, I met Dana through some friends early on in
> > Indy Hall's existence. She was smart, friendly, extremely outgoing, and
> in
> > her last year of art school completing a BFA.
> >
> > A few months before graduation, she came to me and said "I have no idea
> what
> > I'm going to do with a BFA after I graduate. Help!"
> >
> > Having seen Dana at Indy Hall social events, it was pretty clear to me it
> > was a place she wanted to be. Having also seen Dana run/curate/organize
> some
> > art shows, it was also pretty obvious that she was organized, and type-A
> > enough to help ME.
> >
> > At the time, Indy Hall wasn't in a position to pay anybody, but
> personally,
> > I needed some of the things I was doing every day at Indy Hall ripped
> away
> > from me. The simple administrava still needed doing, but I wasn't going
> to
> > relinquish it to someone I didn't trust.
> >
> > So rather than Indy Hall hire her, I hired her as a personal assistant.
> Her
> > #1 job function was to get me to do less Indy Hall work didn't need to be
> me
> > (which let me focus on the stuff that DID need to be me). The catch was,
> as
> > Indy Hall COULD afford more, it would.
> >
> > Long story short, she did a phenomenal job of directive #1 in showing me
> > that Indy Hall could run without me, and how. That was a HUGE and
> important
> > lesson in bringing on help. By virtue of her personality, she also found
> > ways to streamline and optimize the processes I'd created for anything
> from
> > attendance to billing to making sure we didn't run out of trash bags or
> > paper. She also contributed to a significant improvement in office
> > "happiness" (not that it was bad, it's just amazing with the right person
> > there to greet you in the morning, or make your day go a little
> smoother).
> > Again, a personality thing, but something that 2 years later, Parker does
> as
> > well.
> >
> > *Here's the important part: *
> > Even with Indy Hall's support, I couldn't afford her full time myself
> > forever, so I said "look at the rest of Indy Hall's members (probably ~40
> > people at the time). If someone's doing something interesting to you, ask
> > them if they need help, and don't be afraid to ask to be paid for your
> > time." I basically helped teach her how to be a freelancer.
> >
> > She found a niche in doing freelance customer support for a handful of
> the
> > products made by people who work at Indy Hall. Again, by virtue of being
> > smart, friendly, intelligent, and a good communicator, she could learn
> > ANYTHING she wanted to and become a great first line of defense customer
> > support person...and multiple part time customer support gigs gave her
> the
> > flexibility to continue to support Indy Hall as well.
> >
> > Fast forward another 18 months -> past Indy Hall's growth into it's new
> > space -> Dana tells me that she's got more paying customer support work
> than
> > she does Indy Hall work...she could use some help for Indy Hall. (Enter
> the
> > interview where we found Parker and Michelle). By the time we brought on
> > Parker, Dana had actually been offered a full time position doing
> > communications operations for one of the companies that bought a product
> > built by an Indy Hall member. She left Indy Hall and all of her other
> > projects to pursue this chance to focus on this one app, and spent the
> last
> > 12 months with the company. She even brought on a couple of her other
> > friends to help build her support team.
> >
> > Dana built something a little different than Parker...it's not an iPhone
> > game, but she found an extremely valuable skill in leadership,
> > communications and operations, that can be applied to any business she
> wants
> > to work with, for, or even start herself.
> >
> > And most importantly, she has the continued support, mentorship, and
> > friendship of Indy Hall where she started out...and still works a few
> days a
> > month.
> >
> > -Alex
> >
> > /ah
> > indyhall.org
> > coworking in philadelphia
> >
> > On Tue, Aug 17, 2010 at 4:50 AM, santi martinez <santifarr...@gmail.com
> >wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > > Alex,
> >
> > > Sorry for deviating the conversation, but do you have ( or any one else
> in
> > > the group ) any other story of success like Parker's one?
> >
> > > Can this evolution be expected in a co-working environment, because of
> the
> > > co-workers attitude?
> >
> > > I know that this is not 1+1=2, but the truth is that when thinking in
> > > starting a co-working space I would never imagine such a fantastic
> outcome
> >
> > > Santi
> >
> > > 2010/8/17 Alex Hillman <dangerouslyawes...@gmail.com>
> >
> > >> Slate reached out privately, but I thought that others might find my
> > >> response useful:
> >
> > >>  Hi Slate,
> >
> > >> I can't speak for Julie (Hi Julie!!) or Tony, but I can tell you that
> > >> we've paid one part time staff member a fixed amount of monthly
> compensation
> > >> that covered them for their time spent with us, but also intentionally
> hired
> > >> people who really wanted to work from Indy Hall on their own
> > >> personal/professional development.
> >
> > >> Since it doesn't take even close to 40 hours a week to take care of
> the
> > >> office management of our ~5000 square foot office and 100+ person
> > >> membership, and it's totally up to them to create even more efficient
> ways
> > >> of getting their work for us done, they can make as MUCH time as they
> like
> > >> for their own projects and essentially get free access to explore
> their
> > >> dreams.
> >
> > >> Parker, our current office manager, recently released his first iPhone
> > >> gamehttp://brainarang.comPrior to coming to Indy Hall, he never
> thought
> > >> he could make a video game. In nearly a year of working at Indy Hall,
> he's
> > >> learned communication, team building, leadership, creative
> collaboration,
> > >> iteration, production, and more.
> >
> > >> It's like the best internship ever.
> >
> > >> In fact, we initially ran it as an unpaid internship, see:
> > >>http://www.indyhall.org/blog/2009/08/20/the-indyhall-internship/towork
> > >> under our first office manager (who was my assistant). We used a ~3
> month
> > >> internship to pilot a successor to Dana, and found Parker, who's
> absolutely
> > >> phenomenal and worth every penny we pay him (I wish we could pay him
> more)!
> >
> > >> Bottom line is: GREAT help is hard to come by, and they need to be
> > >> compensated fairly. I don't personally think a commission is fair
> because a
> > >> single staff member isn't going to make the difference between 20 and
> 40
> > >> members, so they don't really have realistic ways to increase their
> > >> compensation to a fair rate. It looks to me more like you're trying to
> hire
> > >> a sales person than what a coworking space really needs: *a den
> mother*.
> >
> > >> Finally, and probably most importantly, the BIGGEST reason we only
> need to
> > >> pay one person a part time wage is because Indy Hall was built as a
> > >> community first, and we heavily included all of our members in the
> > >> construction of our clubhouse and continue to do so on a daily basis.
> So
> > >> many of the things that most offices would have to have an office
> minion
> > >> take care of get taken care of by our members because they're proud of
> the
> > >> home they helped create and inhabit. That's more valuable than any
> "cost
> > >> savings" approach we could have ever dreamed up.
> >
> > >> Best of luck on your new effort in Ct!
> >
> > >> Just remember: community comes first. Everything else is gravy.
> >
> > >> -Alex
> > >> /ah
> > >> indyhall.org
> > >> coworking in philadelphia
> >
> > >> On Mon, Aug 16, 2010 at 2:21 PM, newhaven coworker <
> > >> slate.ball...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > >>> I was wondering if anyone has come up with a good formula for paying
> > >>> staff?
> >
> > >>> Is there a percentage of monthly membership income that goes towards
> > >>> paying staff?
> >
> > >>> Many of the posts on that have to do with paying staff are from
> > >>> several years ago. If anyone has any insight into this area our
> > >>> Connecticut coworking space would appreciate the input. Thanks
> >
> > >>> SB
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