TEDx is indeed a good model to learn from, thank you for reminding me about this, Dave! :)
在 2011年2月2日 上午12:03，David Troy <[email protected]> 写道： > Liu Yan, > > Just throwing this out there but maybe one way to do it is to encourage > copying and request some conditions from those who do copy. > > One example is TED: they have given away their brand but ask that folks > follow the rules for TEDx events in exchange. Maybe you could do something > similar? Offer some design guidelines and branding but ask that folks follow > a few simple rules. > > I don't know how Chinese culture would respond to something like this, but > given that you're working in a pretty new design domain likely to be explored > by other forward-thinking individuals like yourself, it seems to me that has > the best shot at success. > > Certainly it seems to me the best thing would be to reach out in a spirit of > cooperation as early as possible, and if you've got any reason to go to > Beijing, meet them face to face to discuss. > > Best, > Dave > > > On Feb 1, 2011, at 10:56 AM, Liu Yan wrote: > >> Alex, thank you for your suggestion. We are aware of the core >> competency of the business we are in and we are confident that is >> something that cannot be copied easily. >> >> I think my message isn't clearly understood. We are not worried about >> the copycats, nor feel any threat, actually the clone has copied the >> content we had last year, our strategy is pretty much altered right >> now. Instead, I am happy someone is taking the initiative to start the >> second coworking in China and become our first follower. I am sure >> there will be more followers like him in the coming year, who will >> appreciate the concept of coworking and join/support the coworking >> community. >> >> The question really is, how do we regulate the level of copying and >> turn it into an open learning to make everyone benefit from making the >> coworking pie bigger, together? >> >> >> >> 在 2011年2月1日 下午11:37，Alex Hillman <[email protected]> 写道： >>> Whatever makes you comfortable. >>> It's my understanding that cloning is a fairly common element of Asian >>> culture (Dave Troy can speak to this much better than I can) so the best >>> thing you can do is draw boundaries for what elements of the "clone" are >>> acceptable to your level of comfort. That's really all you can or should >>> worry about defending. >>> Outside of your brand and your language being lifted, consider that copycats >>> are almost always less effective than their original. Take this as an >>> opportunity to introspect and figure out what makes your community special - >>> and focus on lifting that above. At that point, you can rebrand or re-design >>> all you want. >>> Focus on what they can't copy, if you find that you can't stop them from >>> copying. >>> -Alex >>> >>> /ah >>> indyhall.org >>> coworking in philadelphia >>> >>> >>> 2011/2/1 Liu Yan <[email protected]> >>>> >>>> Coworking isn't a big money-making business. I believe the person who >>>> started the coworking in Beijing has no intention to make quick money >>>> and huge profit. So it really doesn't make any sense to consult a >>>> lawyer to sue him. To be honest, we can't even afford it. >>>> >>>> I believe there is a dialogue needed between us and the clone. We want >>>> to let him know that we don't hate our competition and we want to find >>>> a way to collaborate if we share values in common. However, it is >>>> necessary to have a few guidelines in mind for people like him who >>>> sees the value in our model and content and want to use it. So my >>>> questions really are: what should be those guidelines? >>>> >>>> Thank you in advance! >>>> >>>> >>>> 在 2011年2月1日 下午9:05，Michael <[email protected]> 写道： >>>>> If you have made your "model and content on the website is at this >>>>> moment pretty much open sourced and licensed under Creative Commons" >>>>> then i am pretty sure they can't legally copyright it right? This may >>>>> be the wrong place to be asking though because copyright in China is >>>>> definitely different to the rest of the world! Why not consult a >>>>> lawyer, otherwise just don't worry about it. >>>>> >>>>> On Feb 1, 7:08 pm, Liu Yan <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>>>>> Hi there, >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Recently we found out that someone in Beijing has used the text of >>>>>>>> our website both in Chinese and English, design and slogan literally >>>>>>>> word >>>>>>>> for word in his website. We are happy that there is another(second) >>>>>>>> coworking space being established in China and they like our model. >>>>>>>> But at >>>>>>>> the same time, we think it should be a way to regulate this kind of >>>>>>>> "sharing". >>>>>> >>>>>>>> For example, Our model and content on the website is at this moment >>>>>>>> pretty much open sourced and licensed under Creative Commons, but the >>>>>>>> people >>>>>>>> who copied and pasted our content put everything under their own >>>>>>>> copyright. >>>>>>>> Meanwhile, we are worried that this kind of clone or look-alike effect >>>>>>>> might >>>>>>>> put our branding and reputation under risk. >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any idea how to cope with this? >>>>>> >>>>>>>> Liu Yan 刘妍 >>>>>>>> CEO/Co-founder >>>>>>>> Xindanwei 新单位 >>>>>>>> (+86) 021 3428 0783 >>>>>>>> (+86) 135 2429 5509 >>>>>>>> 50 Yongjia Rd, Shanghai,CHINA >>>>>>>> 中国上海徐汇区永嘉路50号 >>>>>>>> http://xindanwei.com >>>>>>>> https://gist.com/theliuyan >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>>>> Groups "Coworking" group. >>>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>>> [email protected]. >>>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Liu Yan 刘妍 >>>> CEO/Co-founder >>>> Xindanwei 新单位 >>>> (+86) 021 3428 0783 >>>> 50 Yongjia Rd, Shanghai,CHINA >>>> 中国上海徐汇区永嘉路50号 >>>> http://xindanwei.com >>>> https://gist.com/theliuyan >>>> >>>> -- >>>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>>> "Coworking" group. >>>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>>> [email protected]. >>>> For more options, visit this group at >>>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Coworking" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected]. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> >> -- >> Liu Yan 刘妍 >> CEO/Co-founder >> Xindanwei 新单位 >> (+86) 021 3428 0783 >> 50 Yongjia Rd, Shanghai,CHINA >> 中国上海徐汇区永嘉路50号 >> http://xindanwei.com >> https://gist.com/theliuyan >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- Liu Yan 刘妍 CEO/Co-founder Xindanwei 新单位 (+86) 021 3428 0783 50 Yongjia Rd, Shanghai,CHINA 中国上海徐汇区永嘉路50号 http://xindanwei.com https://gist.com/theliuyan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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