We moved from a post industrial loft to an old mansion in the heart of French Concession(city center), while the size remains the same, the space is segmented into 7 floors(including a roof terras), which allows coworkers to choose their favorite floors, neighbors and atmosphere, while remains as a big coworking family. The sales went up straight up after we moved in, the space is nearly packed now.
Despite some of the con's, I absolutely love the layers, that allows our space to have different possibilities for different activities: coworking space, hack space, formal meeting space, informal meeting space, coffee shop. We are able to use every piece of our space more efficiently(if you have a bit of understanding how expensive the real estate in Shanghai is) -- Liu Yan 刘妍 CEO/Co-founder Xindanwei 新单位 (+86) 021 3428 0783 50 Yongjia Rd, Shanghai,CHINA 中国上海徐汇区永嘉路50号 http://xindanwei.com https://twitter.com/theliuyan On 2011-1-8, at 上午3:42, mark gilbreath wrote: > along these same lines, Cisco has been open about their internal auditing of > "live load" that they conducted ~5 years ago. they found that the typical > utilization/occupancy of an assigned desk or cube was ~35%. This translates > to a capacity per workstation of ~2.5. I've seen this 35% number > corroborated by other large enterprises who have done similar studies, so i > think it is a reasonable planning target for a coworking venue that has a > broad cross section of professionals (ie the same level of diversity that a > large employer like Cisco has across its employee base...sales, mktg, > engineering, manufacturing, customer service, exec, etc...). If a cowork > community builds up with a more vertical focus on one type of professional... > well then your results will probably vary. > > > > > Mark Gilbreath > founder/deckhand/CEO > 208-720-8107 > [email protected] > http://www.linkedin.com/in/markgilbreath > skype: mfgilbreath > twitter: liquidspaceapp > > LiquidSpace(TM) - a better space to work. > We're a location-based mobile application that lets you use your phone to > find a better space to meet and work, book it, check in securely, and share > it with your colleagues. Visit www.liquidspaceapp.com to learn more! > > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]> wrote: > Ahhh, that's what I thought. Theoretically, the limit could be 2:1, but I > people will tend to overlap during the same time slots. But yes, I agree if > you had a high % of sales people in your community, you might even be able to > raise the limit to 6:1! > > > Jerome > ______________ > BLANKSPACES > "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" > > www.blankspaces.com > 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) > Los Angeles, CA 90036 > 323.330.9505 (office) > > On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:22 AM, mark gilbreath wrote: > >> regarding 2:1, our observation at VengaWorks was that the actual "live load" >> (ie what % of the time allotted in their membership are they actually >> occupying a chair in your space) of our members varied tremendously, with >> some loose correlation to professional role. s/w developers tended to be >> much more present. sales/mktg/freelancers tended to be less present. >> somewhat obvious. i think the takeaway here is that the community you >> choose to build (developers vs writers vs freelancers vs sales roadwarriors >> vs mktg vs regional execs, vs all the above) will likely have a direct >> impact on the "live load" that you experience, and this has to be factored >> into your pricing model. >> >> >> Mark Gilbreath >> founder/deckhand/CEO >> 208-720-8107 >> [email protected] >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/markgilbreath >> skype: mfgilbreath >> twitter: liquidspaceapp >> >> LiquidSpace(TM) - a better space to work. >> We're a location-based mobile application that lets you use your phone to >> find a better space to meet and work, book it, check in securely, and share >> it with your colleagues. Visit www.liquidspaceapp.com to learn more! >> >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jerome Chang <[email protected]> wrote: >> Just a quick note: $11-$12/sf???? We're at $25/sf-$40/sf here in L.A.! >> >> Also, how successful have you been to accommodate 2:1? I haven't tested >> that limit here at BLANKSPACES, but can't imagine that we'd be able to hit >> it either. >> >> >> Jerome >> ______________ >> BLANKSPACES >> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" >> >> www.blankspaces.com >> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) >> Los Angeles, CA 90036 >> 323.330.9505 (office) >> >> On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Jazzman3 wrote: >> >> > To our friends at Denver Coworking.... >> > >> > What space? What do your members or potential members want? >> > Managing the space? Managing the members? Really the essential >> > questions raised in the course of setting up coworking space. >> > >> > Some guiding principles: 1) Have members and/or potential members go >> > through the space (if possible) and get their feedback. Angel and >> > the other coworking pros are correct in "what do your members (and >> > prospects) think?" >> > 2) After managing many buildings (both personal and professionally), >> > and running a business incubator for 11 years, you need to consider >> > the building (space) itself. If the space is the hardware (space, >> > HVAC, internet, lighting, flexible space, etc), and the community is >> > the software (programming, members, events, coworking community), you >> > really need both to make it work. And while leading with community >> > is essential, if the heat doesn't work, or the Internet is down, or >> > the space isn't flexible, the community side isn't supported and your >> > coworking space (and community) will not work in the long term. >> > 3) From the building side (space support), more flexibility, more open >> > space, more options is better. At DurangoSpace, all of our >> > furnishings (Hon Huddle, Hon Basyx, 9to5 Brio exec seating, Mayline >> > Valore task seating are on wheels and flexible. We plan on >> > rearranging our space all of the time. However, with walls, you are >> > limited. But you need some walls to define space. Those needs >> > are more critical than "Loft vs. Mansion". >> > 4) In our business model, based on the coworking metrics of 2 members >> > per one workspace, and 100 SF per workspace, we have calculated space >> > this way: Our DurangoSpace is 2650 SF in the 1200 block of Main >> > Avenue in Durango, CO. So that would be about 26 workspaces >> > (capacity), with could serve 40 to 50 members (max at 50). But we >> > need 23 members (or equivelent) to break even, and 30 to 40 is the >> > sweet spot. But to do this we had to have $11 to $12 SF rent. >> > Some places in town were $14 to $22 SF, which was outside our revenue >> > model budget. So back to you Mansion vs. Loft: Can your members >> > afford it? >> > >> > Hope this helps. >> > >> > Jasper >> > DurangoSpace >> > >> > >> > On Jan 2, 4:10 pm, Denver Coworking <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> I am trying to select a new location for a cowering facility in Denver >> >> and I'm debate the type of building. I noticed that Conjuncture is in >> >> an old mansion and it's really working for them, in fact they are >> >> expanding to the neighboring house. Most other coworking spots are in >> >> office buildings or converted lofts with a few other ones being in >> >> strip malls, although the strip mall coworking facilities are a bit >> >> rare. >> >> >> >> From your experience what do you like the most and why - old mansion >> >> v. open office layout? >> >> >> >> My pros and cons: >> >> >> >> Old Mansions >> >> >> >> Pros: Great home feel, yard and patio access, available cheap >> >> street >> >> parking, segmented rooms with up to 8 to 10 cowers in each, lounge >> >> space, kitchen, showers often included for bikers, lower rents. >> >> >> >> Cons: Layout can be broken up to 5 larger rooms v. 1 or 2 larger >> >> ones, location is off the main streets, less of a professional feel >> >> (pro and con) for meeting clients at, the lack of a giant open floor >> >> plan prevents larger (15+) people events being held. >> >> >> >> Office/Lofts >> >> >> >> Pros: Configured to have a giant open floor plan, more of a >> >> professional but casual atmosphere, often in a good location, a >> >> parking lot may be available with the lease, close to public transit, >> >> often closer to business clients of members. >> >> >> >> Cons: Higher rents and expensive parking if lot is not available. >> >> >> >> What do you think? >> > >> > -- >> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> > "Coworking" group. >> > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> > [email protected]. >> > For more options, visit this group at >> > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> > >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected]. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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