Dear Doley, Thank you very much. Your support is highly appreciated. As of now i have decided to come down on Saturday since i have other things to buy like plotter, laptops, scanners and communication sets. but i guess I could come one or two days later right. Do you have any idea on the cost of cargo via druk air and how do we send through druk air?
And by the way I am coming with two of my nephew and his wife. The couple is on their way to Australia for his studies they will stay one or two nights. Since they are travelling for the first time they are relying on me. so I hope you don't mind. cheers tp 2011/2/10 Liu Yan <liuyan.dat...@gmail.com>: > We moved from a post industrial loft to an old mansion in the heart of > French Concession(city center), while the size remains the same, the space > is segmented into 7 floors(including a roof terras), which allows coworkers > to choose their favorite floors, neighbors and atmosphere, while remains as > a big coworking family. The sales went up straight up after we moved in, the > space is nearly packed now. > > Despite some of the con's, I absolutely love the layers, that allows our > space to have different possibilities for different activities: coworking > space, hack space, formal meeting space, informal meeting space, coffee > shop. We are able to use every piece of our space more efficiently(if you > have a bit of understanding how expensive the real estate in Shanghai is) > > > > -- > Liu Yan 刘妍 > CEO/Co-founder > Xindanwei 新单位 > (+86) 021 3428 0783 > 50 Yongjia Rd, Shanghai,CHINA > 中国上海徐汇区永嘉路50号 > http://xindanwei.com > https://twitter.com/theliuyan > > > On 2011-1-8, at 上午3:42, mark gilbreath wrote: > > along these same lines, Cisco has been open about their internal auditing of > "live load" that they conducted ~5 years ago. they found that the typical > utilization/occupancy of an assigned desk or cube was ~35%. This > translates to a capacity per workstation of ~2.5. I've seen this 35% number > corroborated by other large enterprises who have done similar studies, so i > think it is a reasonable planning target for a coworking venue that has a > broad cross section of professionals (ie the same level of diversity that a > large employer like Cisco has across its employee base...sales, mktg, > engineering, manufacturing, customer service, exec, etc...). If a cowork > community builds up with a more vertical focus on one type of > professional... well then your results will probably vary. > > > > Mark Gilbreath > founder/deckhand/CEO > 208-720-8107 > m...@liquidspaceapp.com > http://www.linkedin.com/in/markgilbreath > skype: mfgilbreath > twitter: liquidspaceapp > LiquidSpace(TM) - a better space to work. > We're a location-based mobile application that lets you use your phone to > find a better space to meet and work, book it, check in securely, and share > it with your colleagues. Visit www.liquidspaceapp.com to learn more! > > > On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 12:06 PM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com> > wrote: >> >> Ahhh, that's what I thought. Theoretically, the limit could be 2:1, but I >> people will tend to overlap during the same time slots. But yes, I agree if >> you had a high % of sales people in your community, you might even be able >> to raise the limit to 6:1! >> >> Jerome >> ______________ >> BLANKSPACES >> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" >> >> www.blankspaces.com >> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) >> Los Angeles, CA 90036 >> 323.330.9505 (office) >> On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:22 AM, mark gilbreath wrote: >> >> regarding 2:1, our observation at VengaWorks was that the actual "live >> load" (ie what % of the time allotted in their membership are they actually >> occupying a chair in your space) of our members varied tremendously, with >> some loose correlation to professional role. s/w developers tended to be >> much more present. sales/mktg/freelancers tended to be less present. >> somewhat obvious. i think the takeaway here is that the community you >> choose to build (developers vs writers vs freelancers vs sales roadwarriors >> vs mktg vs regional execs, vs all the above) will likely have a direct >> impact on the "live load" that you experience, and this has to be factored >> into your pricing model. >> >> Mark Gilbreath >> founder/deckhand/CEO >> 208-720-8107 >> m...@liquidspaceapp.com >> http://www.linkedin.com/in/markgilbreath >> skype: mfgilbreath >> twitter: liquidspaceapp >> LiquidSpace(TM) - a better space to work. >> We're a location-based mobile application that lets you use your phone to >> find a better space to meet and work, book it, check in securely, and share >> it with your colleagues. Visit www.liquidspaceapp.com to learn more! >> >> >> On Fri, Jan 7, 2011 at 11:12 AM, Jerome Chang <jer...@blankspaces.com> >> wrote: >>> >>> Just a quick note: $11-$12/sf???? We're at $25/sf-$40/sf here in L.A.! >>> >>> Also, how successful have you been to accommodate 2:1? I haven't tested >>> that limit here at BLANKSPACES, but can't imagine that we'd be able to hit >>> it either. >>> >>> >>> Jerome >>> ______________ >>> BLANKSPACES >>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" >>> >>> www.blankspaces.com >>> 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) >>> Los Angeles, CA 90036 >>> 323.330.9505 (office) >>> >>> On Jan 7, 2011, at 10:00 AM, Jazzman3 wrote: >>> >>> > To our friends at Denver Coworking.... >>> > >>> > What space? What do your members or potential members want? >>> > Managing the space? Managing the members? Really the essential >>> > questions raised in the course of setting up coworking space. >>> > >>> > Some guiding principles: 1) Have members and/or potential members go >>> > through the space (if possible) and get their feedback. Angel and >>> > the other coworking pros are correct in "what do your members (and >>> > prospects) think?" >>> > 2) After managing many buildings (both personal and professionally), >>> > and running a business incubator for 11 years, you need to consider >>> > the building (space) itself. If the space is the hardware (space, >>> > HVAC, internet, lighting, flexible space, etc), and the community is >>> > the software (programming, members, events, coworking community), you >>> > really need both to make it work. And while leading with community >>> > is essential, if the heat doesn't work, or the Internet is down, or >>> > the space isn't flexible, the community side isn't supported and your >>> > coworking space (and community) will not work in the long term. >>> > 3) From the building side (space support), more flexibility, more open >>> > space, more options is better. At DurangoSpace, all of our >>> > furnishings (Hon Huddle, Hon Basyx, 9to5 Brio exec seating, Mayline >>> > Valore task seating are on wheels and flexible. We plan on >>> > rearranging our space all of the time. However, with walls, you are >>> > limited. But you need some walls to define space. Those needs >>> > are more critical than "Loft vs. Mansion". >>> > 4) In our business model, based on the coworking metrics of 2 members >>> > per one workspace, and 100 SF per workspace, we have calculated space >>> > this way: Our DurangoSpace is 2650 SF in the 1200 block of Main >>> > Avenue in Durango, CO. So that would be about 26 workspaces >>> > (capacity), with could serve 40 to 50 members (max at 50). But we >>> > need 23 members (or equivelent) to break even, and 30 to 40 is the >>> > sweet spot. But to do this we had to have $11 to $12 SF rent. >>> > Some places in town were $14 to $22 SF, which was outside our revenue >>> > model budget. So back to you Mansion vs. Loft: Can your members >>> > afford it? >>> > >>> > Hope this helps. >>> > >>> > Jasper >>> > DurangoSpace >>> > >>> > >>> > On Jan 2, 4:10 pm, Denver Coworking <denvercowork...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >> I am trying to select a new location for a cowering facility in Denver >>> >> and I'm debate the type of building. I noticed that Conjuncture is in >>> >> an old mansion and it's really working for them, in fact they are >>> >> expanding to the neighboring house. Most other coworking spots are in >>> >> office buildings or converted lofts with a few other ones being in >>> >> strip malls, although the strip mall coworking facilities are a bit >>> >> rare. >>> >> >>> >> From your experience what do you like the most and why - old mansion >>> >> v. open office layout? >>> >> >>> >> My pros and cons: >>> >> >>> >> Old Mansions >>> >> >>> >> Pros: Great home feel, yard and patio access, available cheap >>> >> street >>> >> parking, segmented rooms with up to 8 to 10 cowers in each, lounge >>> >> space, kitchen, showers often included for bikers, lower rents. >>> >> >>> >> Cons: Layout can be broken up to 5 larger rooms v. 1 or 2 >>> >> larger >>> >> ones, location is off the main streets, less of a professional feel >>> >> (pro and con) for meeting clients at, the lack of a giant open floor >>> >> plan prevents larger (15+) people events being held. >>> >> >>> >> Office/Lofts >>> >> >>> >> Pros: Configured to have a giant open floor plan, more of a >>> >> professional but casual atmosphere, often in a good location, a >>> >> parking lot may be available with the lease, close to public transit, >>> >> often closer to business clients of members. >>> >> >>> >> Cons: Higher rents and expensive parking if lot is not >>> >> available. >>> >> >>> >> What do you think? >>> > >>> > -- >>> > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google >>> > Groups "Coworking" group. >>> > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >>> > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> > For more options, visit this group at >>> > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >>> > >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Coworking" group. >>> To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >>> >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to coworking@googlegroups.com. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > coworking+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > -- ¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤¤ Tshering Penjor, mobile #0097517730954 Thimphu:Bhutan -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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