Sweet, thanks Jerome. How many access points do you use to cover your location(s)? Any recommendations for planning coverage?
-- /ah indyhall.org coworking in philadelphia On Monday, May 7, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Jerome Chang wrote: > Hi. > > We and NextSpace both use Meraki. I believe Link does as well. Many pros, > and the only cons I encountered was the upfront cost a year ago, which since > have lowered. Otherwise, operationally, it's been bliss. Totally ideal for > dynamically changing spaces such as coworking. > > > Jerome > ______________ > BLANKSPACES > "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" > > www.blankspaces.com (http://www.blankspaces.com) > ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, > CA 90036 > > On May 7, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Alex Hillman wrote: > > Picking up on a super-old thread, I'm wondering if Jerome or anyone else > > can weigh in on Meraki, Ruckus, or any other similar wireless solutions > > that they're using and love? Pros, cons, configurations, number of > > members/devices you support per Access Point, etc? > > > > We're looking at options again now that we're expanding to 2 floors and > > determining efficient ways to cover 8000 square feet on 2 floors of a > > cement-structure building. Adding more Airport Extremes is an option, but > > stuff like "beamforming" and high-power antennae has my attention :) > > > > -Alex > > > > indyhall.org (http://indyhall.org) > > > > On Friday, August 26, 2011 12:15:02 PM UTC-4, Jerome wrote: > > > Hi all. > > > > > > Sorry folks, but I'd have to disagree. I tried to use an Airport > > > Extreme, then added another and we quickly overwhelmed them. We upgraded > > > to a DLink commercial grade router and within a year (or less!), that > > > fizzled. We now use Meraki AP's and router (since March 2011) and so far > > > so good. Basically, the Apple Extreme's simply couldn't handle the load > > > for about 40 simultaneous "devices." Remember that many people now use > > > 2-3 devices (laptop + phone/tablet), so you should anticipate x2. > > > > > > For the Apple Extreme's, we ended up having to often turn off and on > > > sometimes 1-2/day. The reason was that these Apple Extreme's would not > > > flush out IP addresses. We concluded that in an environment where you > > > might have the same 40 people, these AE's might be appropriate. But when > > > we host an event for 50 people... > > > > > > Also, AE's don't allow you to manage the user connections: no throttling, > > > no activity per IP address, etc. In an age of dropbox and all things > > > cloud, all it takes is one uneducated user to think they can upload a 1 > > > gb movie file to ruin the bandwidth for everyone else. Or say, when > > > video streaming and other heavy bandwidth usage peaks around lunch time > > > because everyone's watching NetFlix streaming while they take a break. > > > > > > Finally, how is everyone getting these fat 40mb pipes??? We pay $600/mo > > > for a 5/5 EoC, and $900/mo for 10/10. And some $200/mo I think for 10/2 > > > DSL (SLA, not consumer). I can only speculate a 50/10 or something must > > > be $$. Oh, and we need the synchronous 5/5 or 10/10 for our VoIP > > > handsets. We use QoS to prioritize the phone data packets; otherwise, > > > we'd need 20/20 or more! > > > > > > > > > Jerome > > > ______________ > > > BLANKSPACES > > > "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" > > > > > > www.blankspaces.com (http://www.blankspaces.com/) > > > ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los > > > Angeles, CA 90036 > > > ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 > > > > > > On Aug 26, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Pat Ramsey wrote: > > > > Josh, > > > > > > > > Never had any issues with the firewall. I eyeball the logs every so > > > > often & haven't seen anything odd. > > > > > > > > The primary base station works great as a central router - no DHCP > > > > issues, NAT works great, DNS etc. Very low-key & stable, as it should > > > > be. > > > > > > > > On the wireless side of things, there's no way we would be able to > > > > satisfactorily handle more than 15 or so people on 1 wireless router. > > > > Don't even try it. So I bought two (plus, it made the little red light > > > > in the back of my head slow down. 2 is 1, 1 is none, etc) of the > > > > Extremes. > > > > > > > > We segmented out our cloud into three, in order to provide connection > > > > points for the different speeds without causing a slowdown for faster > > > > devices. Each uses the same wireless key, so it's convenient for users > > > > to get on. My original plan of 1 cloud for all failed spectacularly the > > > > day we had a visitor with an old 802.11b card connect, killing > > > > connection speeds for everyone. D'oh! > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Josh Aberson wrote: > > > > > Thanks Pat, appreciate the help. > > > > > > > > > > I was looking into the Airport extreme option. I really like that it > > > > > has USB connectivity for shared drives, and that it's a dual antenna > > > > > so can separate out networks for different uses. Am mainly concerned > > > > > with firewall protection on the main line coming in. > > > > > > > > > > Have you ever had any issues with the firewall on those? Also, if > > > > > you didn't have two, do you think your 45 members would bog it down? > > > > > > > > > > Thanks again! > > > > > > > > > > Josh Aberson > > > > > > > > > > Sent from my iPhone > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Pat Ramsey <[email protected] > > > > > (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Josh, > > > > > > > > > > > > Congratulations, first off. Welcome to the fun! > > > > > > > > > > > > What are the connectivity needs of your users? Are they pushing > > > > > > large amounts of code & files daily? Are you serving data from your > > > > > > end? > > > > > > > > > > > > We've always gone with a "reasonable" uplink. Business DSL for a > > > > > > long time, then a cable line in addition, eventually adding fiber > > > > > > for data & keeping a dsl for 1 member's VOIP phone. > > > > > > > > > > > > I've been in IT long enough to know you can never have a large > > > > > > enough pipe, so set the expectations early, find out what's the > > > > > > right size without busting your budget & work with your members - > > > > > > know them well enough - to avoid any hurt feelings, problems, etc. > > > > > > > > > > > > We're at around 40-ish members now. Our data line is fiber, 5 up / > > > > > > 5 down, I think it is. Our core router is an Airport Extreme base > > > > > > station. Off that is a 24-port gigabit switch, as the space came > > > > > > with some wired data ports. We run another Airport Extreme to > > > > > > extend the cloud in the main room. Extended off that is a Linksys & > > > > > > a D-link wireless router (both flashed with dd-wrt). Each of these > > > > > > has a old network printer attached to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Easy-peasy, pretty much runs itself. > > > > > > > > > > > > Cheers! > > > > > > > > > > > > Pat > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Josh Aberson wrote: > > > > > > > Hey all, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Without getting into too much introduction and details, I'll just > > > > > > > cut right to it. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I'm opening a space next week in South Dakota. Working on > > > > > > > finalizing details right now, and one thing I'm not too sure > > > > > > > about is internet. We've got 20 members or so pre-signed to move > > > > > > > in day 1 and in trying to plan for the future, am trying to > > > > > > > figure out what sort of internet speed I need, and what sort of > > > > > > > router to handle the space's size and amount of people. It's a > > > > > > > long space, about 150ft, and we could very easily have 100 people > > > > > > > accessing the network at any given time. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Any of the larger spaces out there have insight? I'm currently > > > > > > > looking at an internet speed of 50 down/10up or 100 down/15 up. > > > > > > > Also am looking at 801.11n routers that have two to three > > > > > > > adjustable networks built into the device. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Would love some thoughts. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Josh Aberson > > > > > > > [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) > > > > > > > m: 521.6158 | @JoshAberson > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > > "Coworking" group. > > To view this discussion on the web visit > > https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/shjjx7ZddMIJ. > > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]). > > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > > [email protected] > > (mailto:[email protected]). > > For more options, visit this group at > > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected] > (mailto:[email protected]). > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected] > (mailto:[email protected]). > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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