For 7500sf, we have 3, but partially because we have a heavy-usage event space up front, so 2 of the AP's kind of double-up coverage. For 5000sf, we have 2.
I would recommend discussing details w/ Chris and Josh, cc-ed here. They have worked w/ me for nearly 4 years so they've seen us go thru 3 gens of wi-fi gear. Jerome ______________ BLANKSPACES "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" www.blankspaces.com ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los Angeles, CA 90036 On May 7, 2012, at 10:42 AM, Alex Hillman wrote: > Sweet, thanks Jerome. > > How many access points do you use to cover your location(s)? Any > recommendations for planning coverage? > > > -- > /ah > indyhall.org > coworking in philadelphia > > > > On Monday, May 7, 2012 at 1:31 PM, Jerome Chang wrote: > >> Hi. >> >> We and NextSpace both use Meraki. I believe Link does as well. Many pros, >> and the only cons I encountered was the upfront cost a year ago, which since >> have lowered. Otherwise, operationally, it's been bliss. Totally ideal for >> dynamically changing spaces such as coworking. >> >> >> Jerome >> ______________ >> BLANKSPACES >> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" >> >> www.blankspaces.com (http://www.blankspaces.com) >> ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los >> Angeles, CA 90036 >> >> On May 7, 2012, at 10:27 AM, Alex Hillman wrote: >>> Picking up on a super-old thread, I'm wondering if Jerome or anyone else >>> can weigh in on Meraki, Ruckus, or any other similar wireless solutions >>> that they're using and love? Pros, cons, configurations, number of >>> members/devices you support per Access Point, etc? >>> >>> We're looking at options again now that we're expanding to 2 floors and >>> determining efficient ways to cover 8000 square feet on 2 floors of a >>> cement-structure building. Adding more Airport Extremes is an option, but >>> stuff like "beamforming" and high-power antennae has my attention :) >>> >>> -Alex >>> >>> indyhall.org (http://indyhall.org) >>> >>> On Friday, August 26, 2011 12:15:02 PM UTC-4, Jerome wrote: >>>> Hi all. >>>> >>>> Sorry folks, but I'd have to disagree. I tried to use an Airport Extreme, >>>> then added another and we quickly overwhelmed them. We upgraded to a >>>> DLink commercial grade router and within a year (or less!), that fizzled. >>>> We now use Meraki AP's and router (since March 2011) and so far so good. >>>> Basically, the Apple Extreme's simply couldn't handle the load for about >>>> 40 simultaneous "devices." Remember that many people now use 2-3 devices >>>> (laptop + phone/tablet), so you should anticipate x2. >>>> >>>> For the Apple Extreme's, we ended up having to often turn off and on >>>> sometimes 1-2/day. The reason was that these Apple Extreme's would not >>>> flush out IP addresses. We concluded that in an environment where you >>>> might have the same 40 people, these AE's might be appropriate. But when >>>> we host an event for 50 people... >>>> >>>> Also, AE's don't allow you to manage the user connections: no throttling, >>>> no activity per IP address, etc. In an age of dropbox and all things >>>> cloud, all it takes is one uneducated user to think they can upload a 1 gb >>>> movie file to ruin the bandwidth for everyone else. Or say, when video >>>> streaming and other heavy bandwidth usage peaks around lunch time because >>>> everyone's watching NetFlix streaming while they take a break. >>>> >>>> Finally, how is everyone getting these fat 40mb pipes??? We pay $600/mo >>>> for a 5/5 EoC, and $900/mo for 10/10. And some $200/mo I think for 10/2 >>>> DSL (SLA, not consumer). I can only speculate a 50/10 or something must >>>> be $$. Oh, and we need the synchronous 5/5 or 10/10 for our VoIP >>>> handsets. We use QoS to prioritize the phone data packets; otherwise, >>>> we'd need 20/20 or more! >>>> >>>> >>>> Jerome >>>> ______________ >>>> BLANKSPACES >>>> "work FOR yourself, not BY yourself" >>>> >>>> www.blankspaces.com (http://www.blankspaces.com/) >>>> ph: 323.330.9505 | 5405 Wilshire Blvd (2 blocks west of La Brea) Los >>>> Angeles, CA 90036 >>>> ph: 310.526.2255 | 1450 2nd Street (@ Broadway), Santa Monica, CA 90401 >>>> >>>> On Aug 26, 2011, at 7:53 AM, Pat Ramsey wrote: >>>>> Josh, >>>>> >>>>> Never had any issues with the firewall. I eyeball the logs every so often >>>>> & haven't seen anything odd. >>>>> >>>>> The primary base station works great as a central router - no DHCP >>>>> issues, NAT works great, DNS etc. Very low-key & stable, as it should be. >>>>> >>>>> On the wireless side of things, there's no way we would be able to >>>>> satisfactorily handle more than 15 or so people on 1 wireless router. >>>>> Don't even try it. So I bought two (plus, it made the little red light in >>>>> the back of my head slow down. 2 is 1, 1 is none, etc) of the Extremes. >>>>> >>>>> We segmented out our cloud into three, in order to provide connection >>>>> points for the different speeds without causing a slowdown for faster >>>>> devices. Each uses the same wireless key, so it's convenient for users to >>>>> get on. My original plan of 1 cloud for all failed spectacularly the day >>>>> we had a visitor with an old 802.11b card connect, killing connection >>>>> speeds for everyone. D'oh! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers! >>>>> >>>>> Pat >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:38 AM, Josh Aberson wrote: >>>>>> Thanks Pat, appreciate the help. >>>>>> >>>>>> I was looking into the Airport extreme option. I really like that it has >>>>>> USB connectivity for shared drives, and that it's a dual antenna so can >>>>>> separate out networks for different uses. Am mainly concerned with >>>>>> firewall protection on the main line coming in. >>>>>> >>>>>> Have you ever had any issues with the firewall on those? Also, if you >>>>>> didn't have two, do you think your 45 members would bog it down? >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks again! >>>>>> >>>>>> Josh Aberson >>>>>> >>>>>> Sent from my iPhone >>>>>> >>>>>> On Aug 26, 2011, at 9:24 AM, Pat Ramsey <[email protected] >>>>>> (mailto:[email protected])> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Josh, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Congratulations, first off. Welcome to the fun! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What are the connectivity needs of your users? Are they pushing large >>>>>>> amounts of code & files daily? Are you serving data from your end? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We've always gone with a "reasonable" uplink. Business DSL for a long >>>>>>> time, then a cable line in addition, eventually adding fiber for data & >>>>>>> keeping a dsl for 1 member's VOIP phone. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I've been in IT long enough to know you can never have a large enough >>>>>>> pipe, so set the expectations early, find out what's the right size >>>>>>> without busting your budget & work with your members - know them well >>>>>>> enough - to avoid any hurt feelings, problems, etc. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> We're at around 40-ish members now. Our data line is fiber, 5 up / 5 >>>>>>> down, I think it is. Our core router is an Airport Extreme base >>>>>>> station. Off that is a 24-port gigabit switch, as the space came with >>>>>>> some wired data ports. We run another Airport Extreme to extend the >>>>>>> cloud in the main room. Extended off that is a Linksys & a D-link >>>>>>> wireless router (both flashed with dd-wrt). Each of these has a old >>>>>>> network printer attached to it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Easy-peasy, pretty much runs itself. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Pat >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Aug 25, 2011, at 10:09 AM, Josh Aberson wrote: >>>>>>>> Hey all, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Without getting into too much introduction and details, I'll just cut >>>>>>>> right to it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm opening a space next week in South Dakota. Working on finalizing >>>>>>>> details right now, and one thing I'm not too sure about is internet. >>>>>>>> We've got 20 members or so pre-signed to move in day 1 and in trying >>>>>>>> to plan for the future, am trying to figure out what sort of internet >>>>>>>> speed I need, and what sort of router to handle the space's size and >>>>>>>> amount of people. It's a long space, about 150ft, and we could very >>>>>>>> easily have 100 people accessing the network at any given time. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Any of the larger spaces out there have insight? I'm currently >>>>>>>> looking at an internet speed of 50 down/10up or 100 down/15 up. Also >>>>>>>> am looking at 801.11n routers that have two to three adjustable >>>>>>>> networks built into the device. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Would love some thoughts. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Best, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Josh Aberson >>>>>>>> [email protected] (mailto:[email protected]) >>>>>>>> m: 521.6158 | @JoshAberson >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> -- >>> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >>> "Coworking" group. >>> To view this discussion on the web visit >>> https://groups.google.com/d/msg/coworking/-/shjjx7ZddMIJ. >>> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >>> (mailto:[email protected]). >>> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >>> [email protected] >>> (mailto:[email protected]). >>> For more options, visit this group at >>> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. >> >> -- >> You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups >> "Coworking" group. >> To post to this group, send email to [email protected] >> (mailto:[email protected]). >> To unsubscribe from this group, send email to >> [email protected] >> (mailto:[email protected]). >> For more options, visit this group at >> http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Coworking" group. > To post to this group, send email to [email protected]. > To unsubscribe from this group, send email to > [email protected]. > For more options, visit this group at > http://groups.google.com/group/coworking?hl=en. > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Coworking" group. 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