The debate is going dangerously low. I'm going to try to move it ahead...

Let's see if we can agree on this: 
Non-human things are a source of use-values. Non-human things can also be a 
source of exchange-values if and only if they are scarce. It's not the action of 
these things which creates this value but only their scarcity. Once upon a time 
there was a dream about technique overcoming the scarcities of nature. In a 
world where this dream is coming close to relization, non-human things have 
nearly nothing to do with exchange-values. But when the dream fails...


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