Thank you Mark for your direct, explicit answer:

<<I can't find a single clear statement (other than this) of your
position and the reasons why you hold it, in tghe message archives.>>

I felt no need to propound my position because I didn't come here to debate 
the angels and pins of political/economic theory, but to gain another 
perspective, a political perspective, on an issue that concerns me: the 
impending change in the social order and it's effects on natural systems (and 
vice versa).

<<Be more specific! WHEN did I dance around and evade an issue?>>

I'm sorry if you got tarred by my poorly aimed brush, Mark. Through your 
essays over the last couple of months, I have come to understand your take on 
the energy crisis and the environment in general. Your feet are toasty 
enough. But until today, I thought that the marxist vision of a new 
sustainable relationship between men and the rest of creation must be some 
dark and closely held secret available only to the cognicenti. So when you 
finally fessed up and said,

"How CAN there be a Marxist plan??? The whole premise of this list is
that there is no such plan, that no-one has any plan, be they Marxist,
EF!, Anarchist or whatever."

I understood with more clarity (as well as disappointment and dread) the 
seriousness and intractability of our situation. Now that I understand you, I 
will take my questions elsewhere and not darken your cell door again.

Btw, I do have "an" answer. But it has to do with ephemeral, semispiritual 
concepts such as worldview, attitude, perspective, vision --- quite beyond 
or, at least, not applicable to the focus of this list.

As for the honorable Dr. Wood:  8-P   ppphfffffthth

Hallyx

              Gaia Sestina

We people think, in error, that we're free.
We don't see all the many ways we're bound.
We think, because we rise up off the ground 
And travel in the air and sea we'll find
That we can live our lives another way
Than all the other creatures of the Earth.

But in our anthro-arrogance we're bound
To misconstrue the meaning of the way.
Though nature showed the method to be free,
We will not see it, thus we'll never find.
Our eager shiny vanity is ground
To dusty blackened ashes in the Earth.

The subtle interplay is quite a find.
That dance 'mongst all the creatures of the Earth,
The harmony of life in which they're bound
The only way they know how to be free.
So, do you think you've found another way?
Not when your soul is sep'rate from the ground.

Some people think that there's no one right way
To be a caring citizen of Earth.
So many think the way to be is free.
For many more, philosophy is ground
In feeling that society is bound
To watch over the living things we find.

But all of us are parts of the whole Earth,
Though each of us must go a different way,
Some swim, some fly, some walk upon the ground,
But in some cosmic vision we are bound
In common exploration, just to find
The magic of the joy of being free.

So, knowing that we share a common ground
With all the other critters here, we find,
By willingly acceding to be bound
To all the living creatures of the Earth,
That's really just about the only way
To manage living here and to be free.

Our longing to be free has got us bound.
By seeing, we might find another way
Of living on the Earth. Become the ground.


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