Yves,
>There are a lot of snap messages expressing opinions about the
>advantages of Marxism over the NC system
Marxism not a system competing with the NC (neo-colonial?) one AFAIK.
>2. How to unsub is unclear
I found that to be *extremely* clear. The WW soft is better than most list
software IMHO.
Go to the list's website, scroll to the bottom, enter your email address, and
follow the instructions.
>By the way, Marxism is as irrelevant to rep-sent circumstances than any
>form of liberalism or conservatist capitalism. Both are at the extremes of
>the same approach to the issue of human behaviour: they differ in the
>manner in which the spoils of the ecosystem and society's exploitation
>should be shared among participants in the economy. This is absolutely not
>the problem now.
Of course this is not the main problem. But the "Marxism" you're talking about
looks strangely similar to the traditonal programs of the mainstream left (the
ones they abandoned years ago)... Tell me, what do you call "Marxism"?
For me, marxism is mainly a critique of the capitalist economic system and of
the nation-state, not a blueprint for a new society. There are indeed parts of
the huge marxist corpus which look like a blueprint for building something new
and I didn't find this stuff very eco-friendly, but so what? Why do we have do
adopt this "all or nothing" mentality?
>Yet, I maintain that discussing about the respective merits of
>philosophies hatched under circumstances that prevailed 150 to 200 years
>ago can be comparable to the subject of the discussion among the orthodox
>bishops and other church dignitaries in Constantinople in 1453.
Does this mean that you think that our current situation is as unrelated to the
"philosophies" that prevailed a century or two ago as theological hair-
splitting? It's not the differences between catholics and orthodoxs theologians
which created the trouble we're in, right? And there is a connection between
the industrial revolution and what is happening, right?
Yves, if you want to increase the interest of this list, instead of moaning against
a reified "Marxism", why not post about this approach that marxists and
capitalists share in your opinion? What you're talking about is far from obvious
for everyone. You don't even have to write it yourself. You can forward
stimulating and challenging stuff to the list.
Julien
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