Dear Robert,

On 9/30/2017 12:27 AM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
Thank you Martin!

Yes, the intent is absolutely not to create a new ontology or prevent anyone 
from doing what they want with the CRM ontology and its extensions, but instead 
to find the minimum viable set of classes and relationships to use for the 
majority of use cases that we encounter around the community.  We are very 
careful not to deviate from the standard, which would create semantic 
incompatibilities between usage by adopters of the profile and those that do 
not (and hence the many questions over the past few months about some of the 
intended uses of things like Rights, Information Objects, and so on, to make 
sure that we /are/ following it whenever possible).
Yes, I have not suggested that you wanted to create a new ontology:-). I wanted to make clear that the CRM itself is no overt or hidden recommendation what should be documented, only how you should document something the CRM describes. This is a very frequent misunderstand, a major obstacle to use. Users read the CRM classes and assume they have to use them all. Then they get frightened, and make a smaller ontology, reinventing the CRM, instead of picking out those they need. I have even seen a PhD student in semantic Web technology that got such an advice from its supervisor.

Piking out classes and properties as a "profile" is *absolutely good practice*. It should, however, be specific enough to the use case. For instance, if "Design or Procedure" has no use case, that means that conservation has not been considered. If "Move" has no use case, it means that object provenance has not been considered. That's fine, but should be made explicit in the beginning.

There is absolutely no construct in the CRM without use case. So, the statement should be "no use case in XXXX":-)

Some classes may be an overspecialization, this has to be discussed and respective classes be removed. Some classes are definitely "abstract" in most use cases, i.e., the user will normally know more about the things she wants to describe, but they are extremely useful for querying.

All the best,

Martin

We would very much welcome any feedback.

Rob


On 9/29/17, 9:31 AM, "Crm-sig on behalf of martin" <[email protected] 
on behalf of [email protected]> wrote:

     Dear All,
     This may find your interest:
     http://linked.art/model/profile/
     Please note, that "simplifying the CRM" in the sense of recommending 
constructs not to use does not constitute another ontology, incompatibility or deviation 
from the standard. The standard is simply not prescriptive.
      I regard such simplification guidelines for specific communities as very 
useful.
     Best,
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 Dr. Martin Doerr              |  Vox:+30(2810)391625        |
 Research Director             |  Fax:+30(2810)391638        |
                               |  Email: [email protected] |
                                                             |
               Center for Cultural Informatics               |
               Information Systems Laboratory                |
                Institute of Computer Science                |
   Foundation for Research and Technology - Hellas (FORTH)   |
                                                             |
               N.Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton,             |
                GR70013 Heraklion,Crete,Greece               |
                                                             |
             Web-site: http://www.ics.forth.gr/isl           |
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