Dear Christian-Emil, I tend to agree with Martin and Martijn.
Although the semantic boundaries between finds and layers could in some cases be ambiguous and in some ways undecidable, there is usually a clear distinction (operated by archaeologists) between the object and the stratigraphic unit in which the object itself is embedded. Talking about physical objects/material things incorporated or embedded within one or more stratum/a is, in my opinion, a better and more clear way to render the scenario you describe. Therefore, I would go for AP18 + A7 or AP15 + S10 in CRMarchaeo. Bests, Achille > Il giorno 6 nov 2018, alle ore 23:18, van Leusen, P.M. > <[email protected]> ha scritto: > > Hi christian-emil, > No, a find should not normally be modeled as a stratigraphic unit, because > the latter is intended to represent chronologically separable processes such > as cutting and filling. In most cases the embedded objects are deposited > together with soil as a single bulk deposit, so do not represent an A8 by > themselves. > However, examples can be constructed where the deposition of a single object > is distinguishable as an event separate from any preceding and subsequent > stratigraphic units - think of an urn being deposited in a cremation grave - > where the use of A8 would be defensible. > Hope this helps, > Martijn > > On Nov 6, 2018 19:05, "Christian-Emil Smith Ore" <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> wrote: > Sorry for the typos and generally confusing text. Here is a hopefully a > better text: > > > > > AP11 has physical relation (is physical relation of) > Domain: > A8 Stratigraphic Unit > Range: A8 Stratigraphic Unit > > My issue was about finds as objects. That, how do one model physical > relations between finds (and also modern objects like the pipe). Can a find > be both an object and an A8 Stratigraphic Unit​? Double instanciation? The > find being an instance of A8 Stratigraphic Unit​ as long as it is not moved? > > Best > Christian-Emil > > > > > > > From: Crm-sig <[email protected] > <mailto:[email protected]>> on behalf of Christian-Emil Smith Ore > <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>> > Sent: 06 November 2018 16:19 > To: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > Subject: [Crm-sig] CRMarcheo > > Dear all, > > I am working on a mapping from Norwegian excavation databases to > CRM/CRMarcheo. The sets use relations like over/under between layers and > other A8 Stratigraphic Units. A question: Can a find be modeled as an > instance of A11 and what about a modern drainage pipe/ditch? > > > > Best, > > Christian-Emil > > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]> > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > <http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig> > > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > [email protected] > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig
