Dear All,
I had sent the below as new issue, but it is indeed the answer to Issue 383.
The question is, how to deal with a file, which is more specific in
content, such as an MS Word, but represents the character sequence that
defines the content of the respective E90. Is is "is incorporated in",
or a subproperty of it?
On 9/19/2018 11:09 PM, Martin Doerr wrote:
Here my scope note:
Pxxx has symbolic content
Domain: E90 Symbolic Object
<#_E2_Temporal_Entity>
Range:E62 String
Quantification:many to many (0,n:0,n) ??
In CRM RDFS subproperty of: rdfs:value
Scope note:This property associates an instance of E90 Symbolic
Object with a complete, identifying representation of its content in
the form of an instance of E62 String. This property only applies to
instances of E90 Symbolic Object that can be represented completely in
this form. The representation may be more specific than the symbolic
level defining the identity condition of the represented. This depends
on the type of the symbolic object represented. For instance, if a
name has type "Modern Greek character sequence", it may be represented
in a loss-free Latin transcription, meaning however the sequence of
Greek letters. As another example, if the represented object has type
"English words sequence", American English or British English spelling
variants may be chosen to represent the English word "colour" without
defining a different symbolic object. If a name has type "European
traditional name", no particular string may define its content.
Examples:
* The materials description (E33) of the painting (E22) _/has
symbolic content/_ “Oil, French Watercolors on Paper, Graphite and Ink
on Canvas, with an Oak frame.”
* The title (E35) of Einstein’s 1915 text (E73) _/has symbolic
content/_ “Relativity, the Special and the General Theory“
* The story of Little Red Riding Hood (E33) _/has symbolic content/_
“Once upon a time there lived in a certain village …”
* The inscription (E34) on Rijksmuseum object SK-A-1601 (E22) _/has
symbolic content/_ “B”
On 9/17/2018 10:38 PM, Robert Sanderson wrote:
Examples I have a lot of!
How about …
* The materials description (E33) of the painting (E22) _/has
symbolic content/_ “Oil, French Watercolors on Paper, Graphite and
Ink on Canvas, with an Oak frame.”
* The title (E35) of Einstein’s 1915 text (E73) _/has symbolic
content/_ “Relativity, the Special and the General Theory“
* The story of Little Red Riding Hood (E33) _/has symbolic content/_
“Once upon a time there lived in a certain village …”
* The inscription (E34) on Rijksmuseum object SK-A-1601 (E22) _/has
symbolic content/_ “B”
Rob
*From: *Crm-sig <[email protected]> on behalf of Richard
Light <[email protected]>
*Date: *Monday, September 17, 2018 at 12:09 PM
*To: *"[email protected]" <[email protected]>
*Subject: *Re: [Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content
Rob,
Absolutely. So now we need to draft the text to describe this
property, in suitably generalized terms, for the CRM, and then update
our RDF documentation to say exactly how it is to be used in that
context. Perhaps we should start with some examples?
Richard
On 17/09/2018 19:49, Robert Sanderson wrote:
Thank you, Martin! I think this is exactly what we need ☺
Rob
*From: *Crm-sig <[email protected]>
<mailto:[email protected]> on behalf of Martin Doerr
<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
*Date: *Friday, September 14, 2018 at 10:23 AM
*To: *"[email protected]" <mailto:[email protected]>
<[email protected]> <mailto:[email protected]>
*Subject: *[Crm-sig] NEW ISSUE: symbolic content
Dear All,
I propose a new property of Symbolic Object : "has symbolic
content : String" , in RDFS subproperty of rdfs:value.
The "level of symbolic specificity" by which the String is
interpreted should conform to the type of the Symbolic Object.
Best,
Martin
On 9/14/2018 7:54 PM, Richard Light wrote:
On 13/09/2018 20:57, Martin Doerr wrote:
Dear Richard,
What we need, to my opinion, is a property of
Symbolic Object we may call it "has symbolic
content" or "has symbolic content inline" or
anything better, which defines that the symbolic
content *is identical to* the Literal,
*abstracted *to the "level of symbolic
specificity" that the Literal implies and that
conforms to the identity condition of the
Symbolic Object, i.e., characters of a certain
script, or whatever. That would make the meaning
of the "value" unambiguous.
Again, I'm in complete agreement with this line of
thought. One decision we should make is whether this
property forms part of the generic CRM framework, or
if it is to be an implementation-specific property
which only appears in our RDF implementation of the
CRM. My instinct is for it to go into the CRM
proper: the treatment of Symbolic Object and its
subclasses would I think be made clearer by the
addition of this property.
For CRM proper!
OK: perhaps we should start a new issue to address this?
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