Indeed the intention is to focus on ontological level for the CRM and
not to expand to data structures, schemas etc. The issue label does not
represent the issue exactly, but it can act as a reminder. I will add
the reference to the library.
T.
On 09/03/2021 06:58, Nicola Carboni wrote:
Dear Thanasis, all,
I would be happy to join the discussion. Another useful reading other
than the already cited ones, is "Cataloguing Culture: Legacies of
Colonialism in Museum Documentation”
<https://www.ubcpress.ca/cataloguing-culture> by Hannah Turner.
Regarding the name and the scope of the issue: should we focus on data
structure (I see the title of the issue is "bias in data structure") or
specifically on ontologies and CRM?
While I do very much believe that data structure is an enormously
important topic to discuss, it is an extremely large subject, and entail
a larger series of problems which do derive from the informational
foundation, the concept of structure itself, the recorded information,
as well as disciplinary inheritance in the chosen subject matter.
I second rob proposing to focus on the problem of the ontology and the
process of documentation/development. I would add that we should include
some point about CRM as system of thought as well as the problem of
formalisation.
* Implementations and Instances of the Ontology
-- I think these are useful as second-order evidence, but that we
should not be too involved or prescriptive.
I would include the topic, as to make clear the diversity in
implementation (use of terminological systems as well as the use of the
concept of controlled terminology itself), avoiding indeed the
prescriptive stance.
Best,
Nicola
P.s. Great initiative :-)
On 8 Mar 2021, at 21:33, Athanasios Velios via Crm-sig wrote:
Thank you Erin. We are using Zotero already for the CRM so this is a
good idea. I can check if a new folder can be created for issue 530.
T.
On 08/03/2021 19:01, Erin Canning wrote:
I would also like to be involved in this discussion, please! I
too have a reading list on the subject that I would be happy to
share; I have been meaning to pull everything into a Zotero
library and this is a good excuse to do so. For a single article
to start things off, I would recommend Miriam Posner's "What's
Next: The Radical, Unrealized Potential of the Digital
Humanities"
<https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357
<https://dhdebates.gc.cuny.edu/read/untitled/section/a22aca14-0eb0-4cc6-a622-6fee9428a357>>
as an interesting read.
Best,
Erin
Erin Canning
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Ontology Systems Analyst, LINCS
https://lincsproject.ca/
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Fantastic! Thank you for sharing and you are first in the list.
For the rest in list and if you did not attend today's sessions,
following discussion for issue 530, a working group is being
formed to
discuss bias in the CRM. Please let me know if you wish to
contribute to
the discussion.
All the best,
Thanasis
On 08/03/2021 17:17, Anaïs Guillem wrote:
Dear Thanasis, all,
Some digital humanists work and publish on this question of
bias in
digital humanities: here is an example of very a propos
publication:
https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425
<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>
<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425
<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>>
<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425
<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>
<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425
<https://journals.dartmouth.edu/cgi-bin/WebObjects/Journals.woa/xmlpage/4/article/425>>>
I gathered myself bibliography about decolonizing knowledge and
methodology especially in digital project. I could join the
discussion
of your working group if you want.
Cheers,
Anais
Le mer. 3 mars 2021 à 14:58, Athanasios Velios
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<mailto:[email protected]
<mailto:[email protected]>>>> a écrit :
Dear all,
In version 7.1 a short but important sentence has been
added at the end
of the scope section:
"Discussions on the types of bias present in the CIDOC
CRM are in
progress within the CIDOC CRM community."
Issue 530 is used to track the discussions here:
http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure
<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>
<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure
<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>>
<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure
<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>
<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure
<http://cidoc-crm.org/Issue/ID-530-bias-in-data-structure>>>
It is important to engage in this discussion so that
we first understand
the issues around bias and privileged positions and
then how these may
or may not impact the development of the model.
We will then be more confident in making a more
complete statement is
future versions. Issue 530 is scheduled to be
discussed at the community
session of the forthcoming meeting.
Looking forward to it.
All the best,
Thanasis
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