Dear George, An instance of a property class represents a statement / formal proposition. Could we thus say that it is also an E73 Information Object? Would multiple instantiation provide a solution to the problem you describe? E.g.:
:painting_sistine_chapel crm:P14_carried_out_by :Michelangelo . *:statement1* a crm:PC14_carried_out_by, *crm:E73_Information_Object* ; crm:P01_has_domain :painting_sistine_chapel ; crm:P02_has_range :Michelangelo ; crm:P14.1_in_the_role_of :master_craftsman . :attrAssign1 a crm:E13_Attribute_Assignment ; crm:P140_assigned_attribute_to *:statement1* ... ... ... Thoughts? Have a good weekend! Best, Pavlos On Wed, Mar 29, 2023 at 4:36 PM George Bruseker via Crm-sig < crm-sig@ics.forth.gr> wrote: > Dear all, > > When using the PC classes modelling structure we end up with a class node > for a property which we can then modify with things like 'kinds' and > 'modes' etc. > > Since such a statement has meaning and comes from somewhere [e.g.: that > someone did something in some capacity (PC14 carried out by ... P02 has > range E39 + P14.1 in the role of E55)] one sometimes needs to provenance > this statement with an E13 attribute assignment. Ie we want to ground who > made this claim. > > In theory this would be done with E13 pointing to the node in the typical > fashion (p141, P140). However, the class PC0_Typed_CRM_Property is not > declared as a subtype of E1 CRM Entity in the PC extension file. As a > result we cannot do this. > > https://cidoc-crm.org/rdfs/7.1.1/CIDOC_CRM_v7.1.1_PC.rdfs > > I would argue PC0_Typed_CRM_Property should be declared a subclass of > E1_CRM_Entity. Then it would be consistent with the rest of the modelling. > > Opinions? > > Best, > > George > _______________________________________________ > Crm-sig mailing list > Crm-sig@ics.forth.gr > http://lists.ics.forth.gr/mailman/listinfo/crm-sig > -- Pavlos Fafalios Postdoctoral researcher Centre for Cultural Informatics & Information Systems Laboratory Institute of Computer Science - FORTH Visiting Lecturer Department of Management Science & Technology Hellenic Mediterranean University Web: http://users.ics.forth.gr/~fafalios/ Email: fafal...@ics.forth.gr Address: N. Plastira 100, Vassilika Vouton, 70013 Heraklion, Greece Tel: +30-2810-391619
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