+1 for a respin from my side Am 23.09.2015 11:56 vorm. schrieb "Marcel Bruch" < [email protected]>:
> Hi Etienne, > > Since then, Buildship has been downloaded about 10’000 times but only 2 > people reported a problem > > > Well, I think this is not a strong indication for two reasons: > > 1. Eclipse-IDE-wide we see more than half a million submitted > (automated) error reports in the last quarter - which boil down to > twenty-thousand distinct problematic locations in source code. Most of them > are NullPointerExceptions. How many of them have been reported before? > 2. I also doubt that many users relate the disappearance of the dialog > with Buildship, thus, rather blame Eclipse than Buildship. It’s a subtile > but annoying bug. > > > > Besides that: > * I weight the cost of a respin much lower than the annoyance users might > experience > * I now understand that this issue occurs for Gradle users only (thanks > for explaining) - but for all of them. As of today 10.000 users got > affected by it. From October to February (Mars.1) 10.000 * x users will get > affected by it again. This is a fair amount of users IMHO. > * I assume Buildship would prefer to ship the fixed version (maybe I’m > wrong). > > > So far the discussion has been lead by a handful people - which likely is > not representative for all opinions. > If I summarize correctly: David is fine with keeping it "as is“, Mikael > want’s a respin. I second Mikaels position. > Maybe others have no strong feelings or don’t care. > > It’s not on me to push a decision. But I’ve a clear preference - pro our > users and pro Buildship. > > Marcel > > > > Am 23.09.2015 um 11:28 schrieb Etienne Studer <[email protected]>: > > Hi Marcel > > Only Buildship users that have launched at least one Gradle task from the > Tasks View may be affected. And, even then, only two users have reported a > problem with the workspace prompt so far. > > Please note that we introduced the call to bundle.start() on June 6th. > Since then, Buildship has been downloaded about 10’000 times, but only 2 > people reported a problem with the workspace prompt (if that serves as any > kind of indication). > > Etienne > > > On 23.09.2015, at 10:11, Marcel Bruch <[email protected]> wrote: > > I commented on the linked bug and currently strongly disagree with David’s > opinion. > > > Short: > If every Eclipse user using the Java, Java EE, or RCP/RAP EPP Package is > affected by this, then its no doubt a blocker. > Then, I vote for a rebuild (and if necessary for postponing the release if > necessary - just to make clear how strong I feel about it). > > If not every Java, Java EE, or RCP/RAP EPP Package user is affected by it, > I’d like to understand when this issue occurs - and when it doesn’t. > > Follow-ups in Bugzilla. > Marcel > > > > > Am 23.09.2015 um 09:27 schrieb Mickael Istria <[email protected]>: > > My favourite NetBeans troll couldn't miss this opportunity > https://twitter.com/ehsavoie/status/646583406176960512 > Tha and my regular chats with various IDE users (I spend a few hours > monthly trying to convince IntelliJ and NetBeans users that Eclipse IDE > isn't that bad) make me feel that this issue is "reputation busting > embarrassing". At least, I don't know how I could keep on evangelizing > about Eclipse IDE if our community is OK to ship a major bug in a high > visible project to its users. > The bar of quality expectation has raised, IntelliJ and NetBeans are doing > a great job, shipping applications that seem mostly bug-free. If we want > Eclipse IDE to stay relevant we cannot ship applications with a critical > bug. > -- > Mickael Istria > Eclipse developer at JBoss, by Red Hat <http://www.jboss.org/tools> > My blog <http://mickaelistria.wordpress.com/> - My Tweets > <http://twitter.com/mickaelistria> > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > [email protected] > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > > -- > Codetrails GmbH > The knowledge transfer company > > Robert-Bosch-Str. 7, 64293 Darmstadt > Phone: +49-6151-276-7092 > Mobile: +49-179-131-7721 > http://www.codetrails.com/ > > Managing Director: Dr. Marcel Bruch > Handelsregister: Darmstadt HRB 91940 > > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > [email protected] > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > [email protected] > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev > > > -- > Codetrails GmbH > The knowledge transfer company > > Robert-Bosch-Str. 7, 64293 Darmstadt > Phone: +49-6151-276-7092 > Mobile: +49-179-131-7721 > http://www.codetrails.com/ > > Managing Director: Dr. Marcel Bruch > Handelsregister: Darmstadt HRB 91940 > > > _______________________________________________ > cross-project-issues-dev mailing list > [email protected] > To change your delivery options, retrieve your password, or unsubscribe > from this list, visit > https://dev.eclipse.org/mailman/listinfo/cross-project-issues-dev >
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