That probably explains why I haven't had a bad experience with the AGX's yet. In fact, I just pulled them out during a checkup last weekend and to install new bumpstops since the old ones dry-rotted off... Anyhoo, the shocks still looked new, no sign of any oil, and still feel solid & responsive. Granted, I'm not a racer (not yet that is), so I'm open to Lee's GREAT information when it gets posted!
-George -----Original Message----- From: Joey Zarrella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:52 PM To: George Freeman Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: CRX: Suspension Question...shock dyno graphs about 2.5 inches lower than stock.. it's kinda low, so that might be why the shocks suck.. but i know koni and tokico handle them that low just fine... Joey Zarrella --- George Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Joey, > > How much lower than stock are your Skunkworks? > Mine's only riding 1.25" > lower in the Eibach Pro-kit's. Just curious... > > > -George > > -----Original Message----- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > On Behalf Of Joey Zarrella > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:28 PM > To: Ricky Crow; Lee & Tracy Grimes > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: Re: CRX: Suspension Question...shock dyno > graphs > > > after 2.5 years of driving on KYB AGX's on > skunkworks > springs, they have gotten worse.. i am beginning to > see fluid on the tops of the shocks where the > adjuster > is... and the travel is MUCH too long for any > lowered > car, they seem to be longer than stock shocks.. > > Joey Zarrella > > > --- Ricky Crow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Just as an FYI for those on the list... I have > seen > > this PowerPoint > > presentation and have listened to Lee's > explanation > > of everything, and it > > VERY thoroughly proves -- you get absolutely what > > you pay for when it > > comes to shocks. You buy cheap shocks, and you > end > > up with junk. > > > > It was *extremely* enlightening. Even Tokico > > Illuminas have quite a few > > weak points, and I thought they were good before. > > Turns out, Tokico > > cheaped out on a few things in their design, as > > well. KYB's...well, I > > won't even get into those. You might as well buy > > Sears Clearance Special > > shocks instead. > > > > Ricky > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Lee & Tracy Grimes wrote: > > > > > There have been number of comments about good > and > > bad points of a variety > > > of performance shocks lately, this thread was in > > regards to AGXs. > > > > > > Would anyone like to see any actual hard data > from > > shock dyno graphs on a > > > few popular brands? They are dyno graphs > showing > > how much rebound and > > > compression damping forces are generated from a > > stand still up to 13 inches > > > per second/.33 meters per second. It also shows > > what is effected and what > > > is not effected when you make your adjustments > on > > each shock. It might > > > explain (or confuse) a little more about what > > shocks do and don't do. I > > > have a Powerpoint shock dyno comparison > > presentation showing dyno graphs of > > > the front shocks for a '92-00 Civic/ '94-01 > > Integra from KONI Sport, > > > Bilstein Sport, Tokico Illumina, and KYB AGX. > > All of the shocks were brand > > > new, out of the box units that were dynoed then > > cut apart to show what the > > > physical internal differences are. I use both > as > > tools during my tech > > > seminars. The Powerpoint is usually a visual > that > > I project and discuss > > > various outlined points during the presentation. > > I don't know how it will > > > stand up as a self-guided tour but it might be > > worth a try. > > > > > > I have just finished a slightly more thorough > > comparison of '94+ Mustang > > > front and rear struts and shocks including > factory > > stock units as well. In > > > many ways it is even more enlightening but > > obviously the Honda fronts might > > > be more pertinent to this list. I have been > > thinking about posting them > > > both on the KONI web site so people can see some > > real hard data numbers that > > > head to head compare brands. If you list guys > > think you'd be interested, > > > I'll get them posted on our site and see what > you > > think. > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com > __________________________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More http://faith.yahoo.com
