Just as an FYI for those on the list... I have seen this PowerPoint presentation and have listened to Lee's explanation of everything, and it VERY thoroughly proves -- you get absolutely what you pay for when it comes to shocks. You buy cheap shocks, and you end up with junk.
It was *extremely* enlightening. Even Tokico Illuminas have quite a few weak points, and I thought they were good before. Turns out, Tokico cheaped out on a few things in their design, as well. KYB's...well, I won't even get into those. You might as well buy Sears Clearance Special shocks instead. Ricky On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Lee & Tracy Grimes wrote: > There have been number of comments about good and bad points of a variety > of performance shocks lately, this thread was in regards to AGXs. > > Would anyone like to see any actual hard data from shock dyno graphs on a > few popular brands? They are dyno graphs showing how much rebound and > compression damping forces are generated from a stand still up to 13 inches > per second/.33 meters per second. It also shows what is effected and what > is not effected when you make your adjustments on each shock. It might > explain (or confuse) a little more about what shocks do and don't do. I > have a Powerpoint shock dyno comparison presentation showing dyno graphs of > the front shocks for a '92-00 Civic/ '94-01 Integra from KONI Sport, > Bilstein Sport, Tokico Illumina, and KYB AGX. All of the shocks were brand > new, out of the box units that were dynoed then cut apart to show what the > physical internal differences are. I use both as tools during my tech > seminars. The Powerpoint is usually a visual that I project and discuss > various outlined points during the presentation. I don't know how it will > stand up as a self-guided tour but it might be worth a try. > > I have just finished a slightly more thorough comparison of '94+ Mustang > front and rear struts and shocks including factory stock units as well. In > many ways it is even more enlightening but obviously the Honda fronts might > be more pertinent to this list. I have been thinking about posting them > both on the KONI web site so people can see some real hard data numbers that > head to head compare brands. If you list guys think you'd be interested, > I'll get them posted on our site and see what you think. > > Lee > >
