I talked to our IT guy at work and I hope to have something posted by the end of this week along with an email address where you can send comments.
Lee ----- Original Message ----- From: "George Freeman" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Joey Zarrella'" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Sunday, October 06, 2002 10:30 PM Subject: RE: CRX: Suspension Question...shock dyno graphs > That probably explains why I haven't had a bad experience with the AGX's > yet. In fact, I just pulled them out during a checkup last weekend and > to install new bumpstops since the old ones dry-rotted off... Anyhoo, > the shocks still looked new, no sign of any oil, and still feel solid & > responsive. Granted, I'm not a racer (not yet that is), so I'm open to > Lee's GREAT information when it gets posted! > > > -George > > -----Original Message----- > From: Joey Zarrella [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Saturday, October 05, 2002 1:52 PM > To: George Freeman > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Subject: RE: CRX: Suspension Question...shock dyno graphs > > > about 2.5 inches lower than stock.. it's kinda low, so > that might be why the shocks suck.. but i know koni > and tokico handle them that low just fine... > > Joey Zarrella > > --- George Freeman <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Joey, > > > > How much lower than stock are your Skunkworks? > > Mine's only riding 1.25" > > lower in the Eibach Pro-kit's. Just curious... > > > > > > -George > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > > On Behalf Of Joey Zarrella > > Sent: Wednesday, October 02, 2002 1:28 PM > > To: Ricky Crow; Lee & Tracy Grimes > > Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > Subject: Re: CRX: Suspension Question...shock dyno > > graphs > > > > > > after 2.5 years of driving on KYB AGX's on > > skunkworks > > springs, they have gotten worse.. i am beginning to > > see fluid on the tops of the shocks where the > > adjuster > > is... and the travel is MUCH too long for any > > lowered > > car, they seem to be longer than stock shocks.. > > > > Joey Zarrella > > > > > > --- Ricky Crow <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Just as an FYI for those on the list... I have > > seen > > > this PowerPoint > > > presentation and have listened to Lee's > > explanation > > > of everything, and it > > > VERY thoroughly proves -- you get absolutely what > > > you pay for when it > > > comes to shocks. You buy cheap shocks, and you > > end > > > up with junk. > > > > > > It was *extremely* enlightening. Even Tokico > > > Illuminas have quite a few > > > weak points, and I thought they were good before. > > > Turns out, Tokico > > > cheaped out on a few things in their design, as > > > well. KYB's...well, I > > > won't even get into those. You might as well buy > > > Sears Clearance Special > > > shocks instead. > > > > > > Ricky > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > On Tue, 1 Oct 2002, Lee & Tracy Grimes wrote: > > > > > > > There have been number of comments about good > > and > > > bad points of a variety > > > > of performance shocks lately, this thread was in > > > regards to AGXs. > > > > > > > > Would anyone like to see any actual hard data > > from > > > shock dyno graphs on a > > > > few popular brands? They are dyno graphs > > showing > > > how much rebound and > > > > compression damping forces are generated from a > > > stand still up to 13 inches > > > > per second/.33 meters per second. It also shows > > > what is effected and what > > > > is not effected when you make your adjustments > > on > > > each shock. It might > > > > explain (or confuse) a little more about what > > > shocks do and don't do. I > > > > have a Powerpoint shock dyno comparison > > > presentation showing dyno graphs of > > > > the front shocks for a '92-00 Civic/ '94-01 > > > Integra from KONI Sport, > > > > Bilstein Sport, Tokico Illumina, and KYB AGX. > > > All of the shocks were brand > > > > new, out of the box units that were dynoed then > > > cut apart to show what the > > > > physical internal differences are. I use both > > as > > > tools during my tech > > > > seminars. The Powerpoint is usually a visual > > that > > > I project and discuss > > > > various outlined points during the presentation. > > > I don't know how it will > > > > stand up as a self-guided tour but it might be > > > worth a try. > > > > > > > > I have just finished a slightly more thorough > > > comparison of '94+ Mustang > > > > front and rear struts and shocks including > > factory > > > stock units as well. In > > > > many ways it is even more enlightening but > > > obviously the Honda fronts might > > > > be more pertinent to this list. I have been > > > thinking about posting them > > > > both on the KONI web site so people can see some > > > real hard data numbers that > > > > head to head compare brands. If you list guys > > > think you'd be interested, > > > > I'll get them posted on our site and see what > > you > > > think. > > > > > > > > Lee > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do you Yahoo!? > > New DSL Internet Access from SBC & Yahoo! http://sbc.yahoo.com > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do you Yahoo!? > Faith Hill - Exclusive Performances, Videos & More > http://faith.yahoo.com >
