No this one with the nice engine is in an E Production racecar.  IT engines
are little more than cleaned up, optimized street engines, less power less
money and more relaible. After many years of racing IT, I stupidly decided
to sell a perfectly good racecar and build a money pit racecar. If I get
smart, I may go back to IT as I have most of the parts needed to build
another car.

Lee




----- Original Message -----
From: "AJ Nealey" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Lee & Tracy Grimes" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, January 06, 2003 12:43 AM
Subject: Re: CRX: Purple Ice...Water Wetter


> Your not running this CRX of yours in ITA are you?
>
> just curious,
>
> aj =)
>
> --- Lee & Tracy Grimes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > MessageDon't just remove the thermostat as you can
> > cause even more heat problems, a common issue for
> > racers.  When in the system, the thermostat adds
> > some back pressure that slows the flow.  If you
> > remove the backpressure and speed up the flow, the
> > water spends less quality cooling time in the
> > radiator so the water that goes back into the engine
> > is hotter.  The car can actually run hotter if you
> > don't give the water enough time to cool in the
> > radiator.  The usual racer trick if needed is to gut
> > a thermostat then put the shell in the system to add
> > some resistance to flow.  I have not tried this as
> > my Hondas have always raced cool.
> >
> > I think you are really on the right track with the
> > Purple Ice/Water Wetter step first.  This should
> > impreove the heat transfer efficiency without having
> > any downsides. This summer and last winter we raced
> > a Mazda RX7 in 12 and 24 hour endurance races and I
> > learned a bit about coolant since rotaries run much,
> > much hotter than piston engines.  The 12 hour ran in
> > the heat of June and we were the only rotary team to
> > finish as the others all boiled over but we spent
> > much of the daylight race hours driving watching the
> > water temp, short shifting and not drafting so we
> > had a steady fresh air supply to the big aluminum
> > race radiator.  Apparantly water is a better
> > transferer of heat than is ethylene glycol
> > (anti-freeze) so the 50/50 mix that most people
> > suggest is actually good to reduce freeze issues but
> > does not transfer heat that well at all.  They say a
> > 75-90% water/ 10-25% glycol mix will do a better job
> > of actually cooling.  The glycol does have some rust
> > inhibitors and water pump lubricants in it so you
> > need some measure of it present.
> >
> > Finally, I am putting a 2-row Accord radiator in the
> > latest CRX racecar because the 14:1 compression and
> > 9,000 rpm on the D16A6 is certainly going to run
> > hotter than my previous race engines.  It is a very
> > tight fit and I haven't finished making all the
> > brackets but I know someone who is having good
> > success with this radiator in his high stressed CRX
> > racer.  This is an engine I can't affored to melt
> > down.
> >
> > Lee
> >   ----- Original Message -----
> >   From: George Freeman
> >   To: 'David Miller' ; 'Lee & Tracy Grimes' ;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >   Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 9:49 PM
> >   Subject: RE: CRX: Purple Ice...Water Wetter
> >
> >
> >   Hmm, didn't think about that one.  Any downsides?
> >
> >
> >   -George
> >     -----Original Message-----
> >     From: David Miller [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >     Sent: Sunday, January 05, 2003 9:40 PM
> >     To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lee & Tracy
> > Grimes; George Freeman; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >     Subject: RE: CRX: Purple Ice...Water Wetter
> >
> >
> >     Have you considered removing the thermostat?
> >
> >     David
> >       -----Original Message-----
> >       From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> >       Sent: Sun 1/5/2003 8:43 AM
> >       To: Lee & Tracy Grimes; George Freeman;
> > [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >       Cc:
> >       Subject: Re: CRX: Purple Ice...Water Wetter
> >
> >
> >       Lee,
> >
> >
> >       I rarely have had heat issues with stock
> > Hondas in the past since like you
> >       said they run cool compared to other cars.  My
> > challenge is the shaved
> >       head/higher compression on the D16Z6 is
> > creating a hotter running motor than
> >       stock which has lots of power during the first
> > few minutes of running, then
> >       slowly starts losing ponies as it warms up
> > (radiator & coolant are new BTW).
> >
> >       Here in FL the heat factor is more dramatic in
> > the summer so I'm willing to
> >       try this stuff and see what happens.  Little
> > Beast is becoming very fun to
> >       drive as I slowly chip away at each issue one
> > by one (ignition, timing,
> >       cooling, etc.).
> >
> >
> >       -George
> >
> >       > That stuff sounds like Red Line's Water
> > Wetter.  I've used it for years in
> >       > the racecars and put it in the van that
> > tended to run hot when towing.   I
> >       > don't think I've run it in a street Honda
> > but luckily they run so cool
> >       > anyway. That is something we can be very
> > happy about, rarely ever do you see
> >       > or hear of a Honda overheating and if so it
> > is usually a blatent problem and
> >       > not a design issue.
> >       >
> >       > Lee
> >       >
> >       >
> >       > ----- Original Message -----
> >       > From: "George Freeman"
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >       > > CRX content:  Just got a bottle of "Purple
> > Ice" and plan to put it in
> >       > > soon.  Apparently, you have to drain the
> > coolant out so there's only 15%
> >       > > left, then add just water and the Purple
> > Ice additive (it breaks down
> >       > > all the H2O molecular friction,
> > transferring heat from the block much
> >       > > more efficiently).
> >       > >
> >       > >
> >       > > George
> >       >
> >       >
> >       >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
> =====
> GS CRX
>
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